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The Celtics tied the series 2-2 with a beautiful last second jumper by “Big Baby” Davis who looked like a ballerina as he lifted himself off the floor to hit the shot. It was beautiful, but it made me think about how maligned he would be as a New York Knick. Arguably, Big Baby’s game is not as good as David Lee’s game but in some ways they are similar. Both are inside players and both have learned how to become a bit more accurate with that mid-range jumper. Both have questionable defensive skills and little lateral foot speed, but Davis uses his considerable girth as an obstacle where as David Lee will sweep clean a corridor to the basket to make it more accessible to the opposition. I think Bradley has it right that Lee would make a good part of a Championship contender, just like Big Shot, Big Baby Davis.


Stephon Marbury tells almost all in a compelling and informative interview with Lang Whitaker in  Slam OnLine.    Stephon gives us some insight into what has happened with him psychologically over the past few tumultous and  disappointing (at least to Knicks fans) past few years.  He also expresses the wonderment of finally being in an atmosphere with a Championship mentality. starbury129a
Lang lets Stephon’s words speak for themselves and fill in some critical blanks for us.     My only disappointment about the Whitaker piece is that Marbury did not really answer the question concerning what it was like to play with Isiah.  After exhaling, Marbury said , “That’s another feature. We could do it, but…another feature. . . . It’s like this: It’s like you thought you had a problem that you figured out, and then all of a sudden it’s not even the question or the answer. It’s just…mindblowing. It’s mindblowing, man…it’s mindblowing.”

Other than that sidestep, I recommend that Fanatics interested in piecing together some of the internal workings of the knicks recent past and the Marbury mind, read this.

I found this joint courtesy of our friend Modi, who sports quite the Stabury article collection — mostly written by him of course.  His latest piece on Marbury, “I’d rather own than be owned,” can be found here.


I had a little time on my hands, so I went Antiquing at the Avatar Antique shop this weekend and I found these potential Avatars for our friends CooleyHigh and Statesman.  The last proposed Avatar is the pic from Modi’s Cosellout website.  I think the pics fit quite nicely, although the notion of Mao raising the O’Brien Trophy should probably be a picture dedicated and donated to David Stern.  Check ’em out.  Whatayathink?

Cooleyhigh Preacherman









May 11, 2009 - Posted by | Boston Celtics, David Lee, Isiah Thomas, New York Knicks, Patrick Ewing | , , , , , ,


  1. Fanatic game last night. This is the first time
    I’ve ever rooted for the Celtics in my Life!

    Comment by peaceman1 | May 11, 2009 | Reply

  2. Also Fanatics….. Did all of you SEE Ron Artest
    LEAD the short handed Rockets to handing the Stacked
    Lakers their Asses yesterday? No Yao, No Tmac, but
    if you watched the Game yesterday…you noticed the
    Rockets looked to Artest as their “Protector” and
    the rest of the team feed off his TUDE! He made every
    Rocket better with his Presence alone. All the bullshit
    about his Character being a bad team influence is just
    that…Bullshit! Had Zeke brought in Artest for Lee two
    years ago…IMO we would be playing the Cavs right now
    and making a better show of it than the Hawks are!
    Tonight it will piss me off as I watch Denver destroy
    Dallas and Cheer on “the low IQ Balkman.” Sigh…..

    Comment by Peaceman | May 11, 2009 | Reply

  3. Peaceman,

    As a former NYC resident I still(13 years removed) can’t root for Boston……..only Garnett.

    Comment by DLTKnicks | May 11, 2009 | Reply

  4. I can’t root for the Magic, nor for any Florida team for that matter. I can root for Doc Rivers, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, and Stephon Marbury,… so that means I am rooting for the Celtics to get past the Magic.

    Comment by orangeandblue1 | May 11, 2009 | Reply

  5. A State of the Moon’em Message
    Watch’in the Playoffs,D,D,D, is all I see, see, see
    at least from the guys who are winnin,in,in.
    We play No D, No D, No D.
    If running and no D is the answer point to the NBA teams that are doing it today in the playoffs?Let’s see, there’s Golden State, Sad Sac, Phoenyix etc.But hey, Mike will find a way….ro win in the O-limpics
    Doc says, the only way to run is to create turnovers.But not in NY, we believe in the power of positive thinking,prayer and Uric-ball!
    Maravich couldn’t win without a team that could D-up, Ernie D, who played no D couldn’t pass his team to the playoffs, but Ricky “Ricardo” Rubio will take us to the promised land.LUUUUCY!!!!!!
    We will not make any playoff noise till we play some D. That may take a while.A long while,Until then we are like the Washington G’s, just entertainment for the tourists.
    Speaking of mooning, ex-Senator $Bill compared Lee to D-Bush-er.Get off the Missouri Moonshine Dolla!Debush Vs.Gus D’Bus Johnson, truly classic.Dave had quick feet and was a lock down defender at the 4.Lee is slow and gets eaten at the 4 by everyone.Dave could shoot it fro distance, had a hook and scored in the low post, plus he had no fear.Lee has a long way to go to stand up in Debush’ shadow.Checkin’out the wrong cheeks Bill!
    By the way, Big Baby has quick feet and good hands, as well as being strong as a bull,with some ‘tude.Check the record, I compared him to Fat Charles Barkley coming out of college.Did you catch his stutter step, spin and double pump before he made that cold blooded J?He needs to drop 40, but either way he’s gonna get paid this summer.
    Mike Woodson is history.He did a decent job, but he can’t take this team any further.THey ain’t listening.
    The NBA nightmare continues for Der Stern.The officials are blowing some big calls.If he had any real balls he would have replayed the Dalla/Denver game in a five minute overtime before tonites game, instead of burying a teah an “I’m sorry”, My gutless ref b-lue your season.
    Oh yeah, Mark Cuban, before you yell at old ladies maybe you should ask them for a look at their driver’s license.I think Kenyon Martin wants a word with you.
    Turka-blu-it still sucks/No D?We need to trade for and Can’t get a game Kleiza.

    Comment by Tman | May 11, 2009 | Reply

  6. Chuckie and Jimmy at play….


    Deciphering between what Cablevision’s founding Dolan family says and what they actually mean requires a degree in linguistics.

    The Dolans released another one of their typically cryptic statements yesterday, this one intended to quell speculation that the planned spinoff of its Madison Square Garden unit could pave the way for a sale of that asset, its cable systems or its Rainbow Media programming unit.

    “The company feels it should make clear that it is not considering the sale of MSG, any of MSG’s businesses or any other Cablevision business at this time,” the Dolan statement read.

    In the Dolan-to-English vernacular, not considering a sale “at this time” really means “we’ll consider a sale when conditions improve,” particularly as it relates to its cable systems and Rainbow unit.

    “They are not for sale now,” Pali Research analyst Rich Greenfield said of those assets. “Now isn’t a good time to sell anyway, there are no buyers given current debt markets. But any board is not going to take a forever standpoint. They’d have to entertain bids in the future.”

    Sanford Bernstein analyst Craig Moffett agreed

    “Speculation about a sale got away from them a bit,” Moffett said. “They’re trying to tell people to cool their jets, that they’re not having an auction.”

    The running thesis among Cablevision investors has been that the Dolans’ end game is to keep the MSG assets — which include the New York Knicks and Rangers sports franchises, Radio City Music Hall and other concert venues, and the Fuse cable network — and sell the cable systems and Rainbow, which holds other cable networks like AMC and WE tv.

    Though the cable business is what made the family billionaires, CEO James Dolan’s heart resides in the music-focused assets housed within MSG — he moonlights as a singer and guitarist for the band JD and the Straight Shot.

    Hope he plays better than he handles his bizness

    Comment by Tman | May 12, 2009 | Reply

  7. Dell Curry: No Truth To Knicks Promising Stephen

    May 12, 2009 4:08 PM EST
    The Knicks have not promised to select Stephen Curry if they have the eighth pick in the draft, according to Stephen’s father and former NBA player Dell Curry.

    “I don’t know where that came from,” Dell Curry told Newsday on Tuesday. “There’s no truth to it.”

    Comment by D L T Knicks | May 12, 2009 | Reply

  8. NBA At 2: Knicks Eyeing Curry?
    By: Jason Fleming Last Updated: 5/12/09 2:16 PM ET |

    :In this edition of the NBA At 2: Stephen Curry to the Knicks?…Flagrant foul education needed…Ford and Westphal coaching candidates?…Danny Granger and Leon Powe win NBA awards…Upcoming HOOPSWORLD chats…2009 NBA Playoff Lines of the Day for Monday.

    Curry Perfect For Knicks? Do the New York Knicks have eyes only for Davidson guard Stephen Curry? According to Marc Berman of the New York Post that could very well be true.

    “I think he’s the perfect fit for a Mike D’Antoni team,” one league executive said.

    That’s not exactly earth-shattering news; people have been saying that for as long as Curry has been on the NBA radar. His ability to shoot quickly, make sound decisions, and his picture-perfect shot make him an ideal candidate for D’Antoni’s offense. It also doesn’t hurt the Knicks are slotted into pick number eight at the moment (pending the results of the NBA Draft Lottery next week) and that seems to be right around where draft pundits are penciling Curry in.

    The Knicks have a need for his skills as well, needing another player who can run the point position and some firepower from the shooting guard spot. Curry has played both roles in college, but is expected to be slotted more at the point guard position in the NBA if he expects to be a full-time starter because of his slight frame.

    If the Knicks stick at number eight and do want a point guard, only Spanish guard Ricky Rubio (should he stay in the draft) would be assured to be off the board. The Knicks would likely have their pick of Curry, possibly Brandon Jennings, Ty Lawson, Eric Maynor, or Jonny Flynn.

    However, none of those players can shoot like Curry. So Knicks fans – if Curry is there at number eight do you take him? Or is there a point guard you would rather see General Manager Donnie Walsh choose? Leave your thoughts in the comments below.

    Comment by D L T Knicks | May 12, 2009 | Reply

  9. DLT


    I’m not sold on all this league exec takia being played on the Knicks with regard to Stephen Curry.

    “I think he’s the perfect fit for a Mike D’Antoni team,” one league executive said.

    That’s not exactly earth-shattering news; people have been saying that for as long as Curry has been on the NBA radar.

    I’ll readily admit that I don’t know enough about the college game to proffer a stronger opinion about the kid but wasn’t there a jump shooting mavin named J.J. Reddick of Duke fame who had alot of hype to him but whose gunning game failed to translate in the NBA b/c the speed and power of the NBA game was too big an adjustment for the former Duke star?

    I read that in times such as the draft, pre draft assessments are bunk many an exec is trying to decieve mislead or misdirect opposing GMs to take a player they otherwise don’t truly value or to make a team shy away from a player the other team does value. The stuff is deception the main pillar in the Art of War. So why should I buy some anonymous GM or twos hype on Curry. Those dude might be chucking it up if the Knicks are stupid enough to get a Reddick part deux w.o having a Howard inside to create some space for the kid!

    Steady my lad great to see you stepping your game back up in the new Den! Hope to read you on the regular when the season kicks up and in the meantime add you two cents and then some!

    Comment by orangeandblue1 | May 12, 2009 | Reply

  10. Steph finally stephed-up.There is no C’s comeback without his “Little Dutch Boy finger in the dike” twelve 4th quarter points.Good for him!He screwed up a basketball situation here.He didn’t commit a murder.Straighten up and fly rightb baby!And keep shooting!LGK

    Told you Turkey-blew-it is a dud!Why go to a no-D dud when you got a studly-D-wight?(Only 10 shots!)They could have, should have won that game on defense alone, if they played any.Keep shooting and keep praying MagicMen.How many field goals did you guys hit in the last 8 minutes? 0.Good teams always fall back on their D to generate O.Paying attention Mike?

    Comment by Tman | May 13, 2009 | Reply

  11. Fanatics, ‘Lives’ will probably say that Isiah is almost correct about his take on Kareem. I agree 100% with Zeke. Kareem’s skill-set, and the SKY-HOOK was dominant. Ask the Bulls.

    Isiah Thomas speaks candidly about his demise in New York

    New Florida International University coach Isiah Thomas joined the show to discuss his new job. Here are some of the highlights of his interview with Dan:
    — Thomas said he wasn’t thinking about Florida International until they called him. He just wanted to get back into the game. “I didn’t care if it was at FIU or if it was with the Chicago Bulls, I just love the gym. And again, basketball is basketball,” Thomas said.
    — Thomas had interesting comments on what happened in New York. “I tried as hard as any human being could possibly try to win in New York,” Thomas said. “I gave it everything that I could give, and I didn’t succeed. I, like many others, have failed there. There’s a long list of us that hasn’t been able to deliver the championship that New York wants. From Pat Riley to Larry Brown to Lenny Wilkins, Jeff Van Gundy, Don Nelson. We all came in here and tried to give it as much as we could humanly, possibly give and we all failed.
    “As things start to unravel, it all went downhill. I wish we could have saved it, I wish we could have done things better in terms of bringing the championship here, but we weren’t able to do it.”
    — Dan asked Isiah how he explains his reported hospitilization for overdosing on sleeping pills to recruits and their families. Thomas said he wasn’t trying to kill himself and there was confusion that day because both he and his daughter had gone to the hospital. At the end of the day, he was protecting his family, and that’s why it took so long for him explain what happened.
    “You and I have known each other for a long time, and I appreciate you bringing it, so it could have clarity, so people wont be confused about it anymore. Now, did I have a hard time here in New York? Yeah. Did I have some down moments? Yeah. I’m human. Everything that I’ve been through, everything that has been written and said, a lot of people knew it wasn’t true. However, you have to deal with it. While you have tough skin, you have sensitive skin too.”
    — Thomas had a very interesting take on Dennis Rodman. He said Rodman acted like that because rebounders never got paid, and he wanted to draw attention to himself.
    — Dan asked Thomas about the greatest player in NBA history. Thomas said there are two names who belong in that discussion — Michael Jordan and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
    “Before Jordan, it was Kareem carrying our league. Some how, he’s gotten misplaced in history. When people talk about basketball, they don’t talk about him any more. When I hear people talk about the great Lakers team, they don’t talk about Kareem. But you know and I know, that in that era, it was Kareem.”
    — Thomas had glowing words about his former coach Chuck Daly, who passed away over the weekend. He said Daly truly formed that great Pistons teams. Before Daly, “Rodman wasn’t Rodman, Laimbeer wasn’t Laimbeer.”
    — Isiah said that the NBA used to be a lot rougher. “Then the Chicago team came along; we were moving toward a more kinder, gentler NBA, so to speak,” Thomas said. But Thomas said that was a good thing for the league, because Michael Jordan was able to take everyone to the next level.
    “[Jordan] got protection, but he deserved to be protected, because where he took the game to globally,” Thomas said. “None of us would have ever been able to do that.

    Peace & Blessings

    Comment by Statesman2 | May 13, 2009 | Reply

  12. S. Curry is our man! No doubt! He’s 6’3 and still growing.
    He will be the best thing since Bernard King. Build around
    him. One you have a sniper like him…then you continue
    to add pieces to compliment him …surround him with
    a couple enforcers like Mason and Oak or the Davis Boys
    Antonio and Dale from that Pacer era.. We need our own SUPERSTAR…………OUR OWN….NO LBJ RETREAD……..
    and this kid has it written in the Garden Rafters already!
    PS. Welcome back STEADY!

    Comment by Peaceman | May 13, 2009 | Reply

    • You make a good case for Curry, but can the kid play defense and who is going to run this team?

      Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 14, 2009 | Reply

  13. State’s, I count my hook shot as one of most unstoppable shots ever — accuracy is a separate issue.

    Kareem gets ignored because he did not give good headlines or quotes to the reporters who wanted them so they could feed their children and have their spouses live in opulence. He has been battling his unfriendly, isolationist persona since his career ended. He suffers form a bad relationship with the press like Barry Bonds, Richie Allen and Roberto Clemente.

    Hey anyone that can count Pam Grier as a girlfriend is “Da Man” to me.

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 14, 2009 | Reply

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