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UPDATED: STEPH STEPS UP THEN CELTS (AND LAKERS) FALL INTO GAME SEVEN, CAVS AND NUGGETS MAKE NEXT STEP AND CUBAN TAKES STEP FOR FORGIVENESS

MARBURY FINDS STROKE AT RIGHT TIME (May Need To Do It Again To Advance To Conference Finals)

Updated: Celtics play tight game six but fold down the stretch as the Magic find their shot and disintegrating Leprechaun interior defense. Game seven in Boston on Sunday. Fanatics, led by O&B, may have a Live Blog Event for this game. Stay tuned and attuned. The Rockets clamp down on the wanna be Champion Lakers for a game seven. Lakers better play big or it will be a Rockets-Nuggets Western Conference Finals. Can you say Chauncey v. LeBron? Stay cool Stern, it hasn’t happened yet.

The best series so far, Celtics v. Magic hits Orlando tonight @ 7pm EST.    This series has provided the most drama and best story lines during a playoff season that seems a bit tired but for the Celtics’ games.  Magic Celtics BasketballDespite Prince Charles Barkley’s pre-series proclamation of Magic superiority,  the Poweless Celtics aren’t quite as powerless as he thought, even without their defensive general and leader Kevin Garnett.   The Celtics bigs have been able to contain Rashard Lewis and Dwight Howard during key stretches with very physical basketball.  For all the talk about how the game has changed, it seems to spring back to old school NBA bball in the playoffs.  Just like last year, the Celtics are being allowed to play a very physical brand of ball and old school Doc makes sure that his bigs (Scalabrine, “Big Baby” Davis, KPerkin and sometimes Mikki Moore) use their fouls.  It is their defensive philosophy that is winning games for them. (Yes, Tman, D’Antoni needs to listen). My favorite storyline though is the barely surprising (to me at least) resurrection of Stephon Marbury on the court as a contributor to the Boston Celtics.  I enjoy it because once again it shows how irrationally hateful and emotional some Knicks fans can be when discussing Marbury.  It certainly is one thing to be critical about his stint in New York which produced more disapointment than cheers, but too many Knicks fans are hateration extremist led by “professional” local reporters or better termed New York “Beat-em up” writers.

When it came to Stephon, Marbury haters claimed that no team would ever want him.  They ignorantly claimed that Marbury was hurting his cause by fighting with Dolan over his money and not giving in.  Yet, Marbury is enjoying the post-season with the World Champions while we are once again coveting OPP (Other People’s Players) and praying that D’Antoni bumps his head on a rim and erase his confusion regarding offense being defense.  Marburyhaters claimed that Marbury was too stupid to deal with Old School Walsh who sports a law degree against Marbury’s Street Graduation Diploma and 20 credits at Georgia Tech.  Yet, Marbury, without an agent or an attorney to take a percentage of his salary, understood enough to know that he would eventually be released so that the Knicks could avoid the luxury tax and that the $400,000 fine was a ruse to try to recoup some chump change at the negotiation table.  Marbury won his freedom right on schedule and  rightfully jetted out of the finished negotiations realizing that he had beaten the big boys despite the naysayers and rantings of Cablevision’s recent acquisition — the sports staff at Newsday.

The Marbury haters then claimed that Marbury would curse the Celtics and drag them down, yet with two of their most important pieces out for the playoffs, the Celtics have not fallen.  In fact, there is a strong chance that they will beat the odds and face the Cleveland Cavaliers in the Eastern Conference finals, in part because of the contributions of Stephon Marbury.   Without a doubt, Marbury’s contributions have not been what one would expect of a starting,  so-called “franchise” point guard, but they have been more than one should expect from player who hadn’t played professional ball in almost two years. Marbury has played with consistent defensive effort, although he has looked lost at times.   But, arguably he has provided the Celtics far more than old man Sam Cassells provided during last year’s championship run.  Albeit inconsistently, Marbury has provided Doc with an option to rest Rondo without giving away the game every time.  (I wonder why Doc does not use Mikki Moore more.)

Finally, Marbury’s shot has been terribly off — he is clearly over-thinking, nervous, without his normal confidence and not balanced when hoisting shots — but he focused enough to keep the Celts in game five before they won it down the stretch with their defense.  His final line was 12 points on 50% shooting , two assists and no turnovers in 15 minutes.  Not bad for a nights work in a playoff series most claimed Marbury would never be in.

I’m betting there is more playoff heroics in store for Starbury.

CAVS AND NUGGETS ADVANCE

The Cavs are still resting and awaiting for the winner of the Celtics-Magic series.   I am sticking with my Celtics in six prediction. Lebron Pic Assuming the Celtics win, their series with Cleveland should be a compelling slaughter.  While the Celtics have enough defense to beat up the Magic, a team that tends to disappear for 8-10 minute stretches, they will not be able to contain LeBron & Company.  I do wonder, however, how well the Cavs will defend against the shooters particularly House and Allen; and also whether Pierce will be aggressive long enough to get a couple of wins.

NBA KobeBron Bracket 5Update

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nuggetslakers_134x75Chauncey Billups has turned the Denver Nuggets into a legitimate Championship Contender, but the real surprise has been Chris “Birdman” Andersen who has made the Nuggets front line stronger and more physical.  The combination with Nene, Kenyon Martin, Carmelo Anthony and J.R. Smith my prove to be a significant obstacle for the Lakers (should they beat the Rockets as expected).  The Lakers, after last year’s whuppin’ at the hands of the Celtics, have tried to become more physical.  However, physicality is not really the Lakers game.  Gasol, Bynum and Odom may find themselves out muscled by Kenyon, Nene and Birdman.

The gamesmanship should be equally exciting in the backcourt with savvy Chauncey facing the vet Derrick.  Edge Chauncey.    But the real edge is that the Lakers have Kobe and that should be all they need if he is truly Jordanesque.  Kobe increases the intellectual edge that Yoda Jackson has over George Karl since Kobe can be plugged in to accommodate any adjustments needed.  Eventually, I think Kobe or Treva may be used to slow down Chauncey  who is a playoff pro having  appeared in conference finals for seven consecutive years.

I still like the Lakers.  But, I like this series.

APOLOGIA?

What is it with all these playoff apologies? All this “sorry” shyte is. . . well. . . .SORRY.

The media is turning this playoff season into a simulation of a political campaign during which everyone is looking for the slightest bit of controversial spoken word so that someone can demand a public apology for a perceived or insignificant slight.  I can understand the Republicans demanding that Wanda Sykes apologize for comparing Rush Limbaugh to a terrorist who should be tortured.  Surely in a venue where a comedian is supposed to do her thing and crack on politicians who provide enough material for 230+ years of reality TV, there must be some limits.  You can’t have a comedian, an uppity black woman at that, using 9/11 as the punchline for a radio talk show host who patriotically and publicly wished that the president would fail to bring the country back.  How could she dare insinuate that Limbaugh wants his fellow citizens to suffer harm just because he doesn’t support the president? That’s nothing like Terrorism. Terrorists want our nation to collapse and for some of US to lose our lives. Rush simply wants the nation to continue collapsing and for many of US to lose our livelihoods, be unable to feed our children, lose our homes to foreclosure, or not be able to obtain health care or a good education. Shucks, Rush may be terrible but he is no terrorist. He’s just blowing up airwaves with his verbal farts, not controlling the airwaves to blow up buildings. Apologize Wanda, just apologize. . . . Syyyyyyke.

No, no, really, I understand why the Republicans would demand an apology — the main reason is that demanding apologies is a recent marketing technique which provides conflict and content for the media.  Today “apologies = content or compensation”; for the media, “content = compensation”; for Republicans it’s another throw-shyte-on-the-wall-and-see-if-it-turns-into-votes effort at getting some positive recognition. Republicans, you go guys (note women are leaving the party in droves). Just, go.

However I can’t support ESPN making a big deal about Dwight Howard complaining about his coach’s substitution patterns which contributed to a game five loss.   Howard was forced to apologize for being right. What rule book says that he must criticize himself publicly if he calls out his coach? And then the press wasted time and space reporting that the Magic-fan father who was sitting court side demanded an apology from “Big Baby” Davis for running into his kid in excitement after he hit a spectacular game winning shot.  Can we say “Apology means give me free tickets or a pair of autographed shoes.”   Why in the hell should  “Big Baby” apologize?  Dad should ask for an apology from the Magic organization for allowing his azz to sit so close to the action with an imagined expectation that the invisible force field in front of him will keep players from bumping into him and his son.  Or maybe, Big Baby should give him an autographed shoelace to demonstrate how much an apology is warranted in this instance.

Oh and let’s not forget the apology from Mark Cuban after he played the unilateral-dozens with Kenyon Martin’s mama who was just watching her son beat some Maverick booty.  That did not warrant an apology either.  Stern should simply tie Cuban to a backboard and let Kenyon shoot about two hundred jumpers toward the net.  Cuban should get a few welts and bruises for that fopaux.  I love Cuban but that boy gets carried away with his sports toy.  Supposedly getting married and becoming a dad calmed him down — but for a team owner to scream at a player’s mama is unacceptable and instigates more bad behavior.    Still the incident is only significant in that the media needs content and they’ll even take garbage to fill the time.

I am demanding apologies too, goddarnit:

I demand that God apologize for creating the Boston Celtics;
I demand that David Stern apologize for not rigging the lottery so the Knicks could get LeBron earlier;
I demand that James Dolan apologize for being born to Charles Dolan;
I demand that Statesman apologize for being wrong 70% of the time;
I demand that Charles Oakley apologize for growing old and leaving the Knicks;
I demand that En Vogue apologize for ignoring my phone calls and cat calls;

[Oh, I apologize for pointing out that Marbury is smarter and happier than some of his hating Knicks fans.  I really do feel bad that Walsh wasted so much time getting rid of Marbury when he could have done it in the pre-season and damaging our playoff hopes in the process with trades purportedly designed to improve the D’Antoni offense. I am sorry we are not in the playoffs instead of Marbury. ]

Quote of the Day

“Mark has apologized on his blog and he will be reaching out to Kenyon personally. We are confident that this will be brought to an intelligent close with an adult conversation.”

[Almost sounds like something the FBA (Fanatics Blog Association) would say about a confrontation between Peaceman and African. “PEACEMAN has apologized on his blog and he will be reaching out to AFRICAN personally. We are confident that this will be brought to an intelligent close with an adult conversation.”)  KNOT. ROFLMAO]

KNOTES

Getting bizzy in the hizzy: DLT, O&B, Tman, Steady, Cooleyhigh, Peaceman, IGM, Post-Up Prince, Modi & Lives . . . New Tweeple following the Fanaticals –Welcome @teetee65. . . .David Lee got four points in the All-NBA team voting. . . . The first team included center Dwight Howard (Orlando), forwards LeBron James (Cleveland) and Dirk Nowitzki (Dallas), and guards Kobe Bryant (Los Angeles Lakers) and Dwyane Wade (Miami). James, the league’s most valuable player, was named to the first team on all 122 ballots. . . . You can read about Isiah’s interview  on the Dan Patrick Radio show here.

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May 14, 2009 - Posted by | Boston Celtics, David Lee, Donnie Walsh, Lebron James., New York Times, Newsday | , , , ,

17 Comments »

  1. @Tman #10 on previous Thread. Turkey-Blew-it as Turkgolu — ha ha ha.

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 14, 2009 | Reply

  2. With mirth and laughter let old wrinkles come.
    Will, I am Shakespeare
    Carry on, Wanda, Steph, Ray, Baby and Dwight.How you handle your journey means as much as reaching your destination.

    Comment by D'man | May 14, 2009 | Reply

  3. Pop traded away Luis Scola who they drafted to Houston because Pop didn’t want to cut into Oberto’s minutes.So much for the San Antonio brain trust.That guy Scola can play, DEFEND and score, and if they had kept him they might still be playing.Oh well, on to the next one way rook.lgk

    Comment by D'man | May 15, 2009 | Reply

  4. New York Knicks

    2008-09 Record: 32-50 (5th Atlantic; 14th in the East)

    Draft Pick: 8th

    Key Free Agents:
    David Lee (restricted)
    Nate Robinson (restricted)
    Al Harrington (unrestricted; player option)

    How they got here:

    Out went Isiah Thomas and in came the tandem of Donnie Walsh and Mike D’Antoni, selling Knicks fans the dream of the 2010 free agent market. New York actually finished this season with a worse record than last, but they did succeed in ridding themselves of Stephon Marbury. The up-tempo style offered some excitement, but the resulting lack of defense also accounted for some remarkable performances by opponents (most notably LeBron James and Kobe Bryant) this season. Three important members of the rotation can hit the market this summer, and you’d think that retaining David Lee would be a goal for New York despite their desire to save money for next summer’s free agent bonanza.

    What they need:

    The question for the Knicks: are they sold on a tandem of Chris Duhon and Nate Robinson at the point? As exciting as the diminutive slam dunk champion is, he’s not a true point guard. And Duhon, who wore down over the final three months of the season, is a free agent in 2010. According to the New York Daily News the front office has been in talks with Spaniard Carlos Cabezas, who could be the answer at the point. If Cabezas is signed New York could draft a mobile big man instead. But expect the Knicks to resort to playing a woefully small lineup next season, picking a point guard suited to run D’Antoni’s system in the lottery.

    Who they’ll take:

    They’ve got options, especially with the possibility of signing Cabezas. It would make sense for the Knicks to go with a point guard here, given the presence of Wilson Chandler on the wing. Harrington may not return (given his inability to let go of the rim in a pair of losses to the lowly Clippers, I’d expect him in a different uniform), and they could let Robinson walk if a preliminary offer is too steep. Brandon Jennings, Eric Maynor and Ty Lawson (if he declares) could all be part of the conversation, as could Louisville’s Earl Clark if the Knicks go for a versatile forward to replace Harrington.

    Draft History (since 2000)
    2008: Danilo Gallinari (6th)
    2007: Wilson Chandler (23rd)
    2006: Renaldo Balkman (20th), Mardy Collins (29th)
    2005: Channing Frye (8th), David Lee (30th), Dijon Thompson (54th)
    2004: Trevor Ariza (44th)
    2003: Mike Sweetney (9th), Maciej Lampe (30th), Slavko Vranes (39th)
    2002: Nene Hilario (7th)
    2001: Michael Wright (39th)
    2000: Donnell Harvey (22nd), Lavor Postell (39th)

    Comment by D L T Knicks | May 15, 2009 | Reply

    • Hey DLT of the Force MDs, when are you picking up your membership certificate. You mean you let Statesman beat you to the water cooler? Lo siento Papi!
      On to SERIOUS matters…is it Steady or did the MSM give D’Anphoni a pass on that Harrington monkey-man fiasco that cost the team TWO games? (I can understand 1 but TWO…c’mon). The first time should have cost him a G in fine. The second time should have cost him another G(ame check). Some of these guys should be playing according to And-1 rules since they have no respect for the game. Steady doesn’t have the connects other than Cooleyhigh and the ForceMDs. Someone please tell Steady and the blogosphere that heads rolled when this ABS happened. Oh what a sript Peace!!!

      KFL

      Comment by Steady | May 15, 2009 | Reply

      • Steady,

        My Mentor,welcome back.You gotta catch me up on “Being Steady” the last year.Good to read you again,my Brother!

        Comment by D L T Knicks | May 15, 2009

    • Nice piece. The point guard piece is very, very tricky. If the Knicks want to attract one of the really big boys (which I don’t think will happen) then they will want to get some experience at point. James and Wade will not come here to grow a team when they have grown teams in Cleveland and Miami.

      Perhaps this year will be a transition year with Duhon and a youngun’ sharing point. D’Antoni realized early on that Duhon could not run his offense — that was not Duhon’s style. Duhon is a half-court general. He did get worn down courtesy of Walsh/D’Antoni but Duhon does not have the mindset of a Rondo, Paul or Parker. He has the skills, but he does not have the mindset.

      Bottom line is that Duhon must be phased out. Now is a great time for Duhon because he has raised his value with an above-his-averages-season. Now is a good time to package him in a trade. He could run a team that has a slower pace and relies on the pick and run. Seriously, he would be a decent back-up and heir to someone like Derrick Fisher. He would look good in that offense.

      Rubio and Brandon are probably too young and Cabezas is too old and doesn’t have the chops. There is someone else out there that can do the job. We need to help the Knicks find him. LOL.

      Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 15, 2009 | Reply

    • Tisdale seems to have been a really nice and honorable man. 44 is so freakin’ young. So freakin’ young. Thank God for today.

      Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 15, 2009 | Reply

  5. Wilcox says he loves D’Antoni’s offense. I’ll find the sight for the interview when I get back later tonight.

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 15, 2009 | Reply

    • Lives,

      Wilcox will say anything…he needs a contract this summer.
      I do hope he stays……..

      Comment by D L T Knicks | May 15, 2009 | Reply

    • Wayman was a very good dude.That says it all,RIP.

      !st, until D’Antoni changes, if he can and plays some serious D, and I don’t believe he can, we are in deep SHYTE!

      2nd, why is everybody all over Duhon.D’Antoni burnt him out.Not his fault.He’s got heart, skills and most of all he’s a vet.He needs help!And Rookies don’t win shyte in the NBA, vets do.Draft whoever, Curry, Teague, whoever.If he’s got the talent and heart he might work out in 2 or 3 seasons.Just like No D’anello needs time to prove he’ a Dirk, No D, No Boards clone/clown.We need a solid pro with skills like a Mo Williams, Paul Milsap, etc. to be a complement to the two guys you might want to bring in.Miami and Clevland are oaded with solid role players.If you build a team THEY might come.Miami and Cleveland are full of complimentary guys who’d look like shyte in NY.But they do their jobs and the superstars understand that.One dimensional wonders with phony numbers like Lee are not the answer.One thing that is certain, watching the playoffs?No D, is bullshyte-ball.Fycke-dat garbage.P.T.Barnum must be a secret partner in Cablevision because we’re all being played for the suckas that he said are born every minute.D’Antoni needs to reveal his true secret identity,he’s Red Klotz’s kid.Lets Go Generals!

      I

      Comment by Tman | May 15, 2009 | Reply

    • @Tman @”#6 sublevel A” moving towards Grand Central theme of the Knicks future — No D-Training.

      My brother, I don’t think everyone is on Duhon. DLT is right, but I’ve been critical of the Duhon pick from day numero Once Upon A Time when they tried to punk Steph but punked themselves instead by keeping him around to watch Duhon take over.

      No trying to have carpel tunnel vision here, but I been done told ya when they first picked up Duhon that he was the wrong guard for the D’Antoni offense. And he was the wrong guard. He still is the wrong guard. We need the right guard because the Knicks stank.

      He’s a nice intelligent young man who will probably make a swell politician one day. He got a little fluff in Hoops Mag this month. But that doesn’t disguise the reality that he was never able to handle D’Antoni’s offense. D’Antoni does not intend to change his offense. D’Antoni’s whole NBA existence is to prove that he can win his way.

      Duhon was not doing the job and was saved by constantly practicing the pick and roll with David Lee. 23 of 30 teams are not trained to guard the pick and roll. I think defending it is above their pay grade. He didn’t fall apart just because he was tired physically — he wore done mentally, especially when the big boys like the Lakers, Cavs and Spurs started showing them how the pick and roll was to be stopped. Then Duhon was shut down and Richie Guerin (who just had to be pissed that Jamal Crawford and the Golden State Warriors not only refused to play D, but they built a conveyor belt to the basket allowing Duhon to break the assist record) was unceremoniously dumped from the record book by someone who will be seen in history as a Rent-a-Knick.

      Yes Duhon was tired. He didn’t have to be. Walsh screwed Duhon with the Mobley contract aquisition (yes, the trade saved a life, but finalizing it didn’t). Walsh knew he needed a guard to work with Duhon which is why he held up on the Crawford trade in the first place. But Walsh panicked, thinking he could never get rid of Zach. Dumb move. He chose cap space and guard gap over protecting his prize guard. (Then later he got another player — Larry Hughes — off the end of someone else’s bench).

      Yes, Duhon was tired. That was D’Antoni’s fault too. He ran him into the ground even when he wasn’t running the offense well.

      Can Duhon get better? I guess he can. It depends on how much heart he has to go with that skill. But he is not a running point guard and he is not one who knows how to control the tempo of the game offensively on a team that can’t control it defensively (which is where you really control it).

      If Knicks fans want something to cheer about, Duhon must be replaced — even the Knicks brass know that now — although I told them last summer.

      Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 16, 2009 | Reply

  6. Curry Wants To Be Drafted By Knicks

    May 15, 2009 4:23 PM EST
    The Knicks are rumored to like guard Stephen Curry, and the feeling appears mutual.

    In an interview with ESPN 1050 on Thursday, Curry said that he hopes the Knicks take him in next month’s NBA Draft.

    “That would be a dream come true,” Curry said.

    “One, to play with an NBA jersey; two, to play at Madison Square Garden every night; three, to play in front of the greatest NBA fans — I think it would be something I would look forward to and I would work very hard to help my team, if that was the case, to be better.

    “I think, with my point guard skills, I could add a lot to the New York Knicks,” Curry added.

    Comment by D L T Knicks | May 15, 2009 | Reply

  7. Chris Wilcox says the D’Antoni offense is perfect for his game.

    Also interesting to note that Wilcox mentions some disarray regarding the uncertainty of the lineups after he was brought on. Hope springs intermittently though as Wilcox has started working out in anticipation of next season, which he hopes is with the Knicks.

    I like Wilcox. Keep him. Height, speed, strength.

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 16, 2009 | Reply

  8. Rolling out, yet another new feature: Guest Tweets. This week — maybe this month — we have added the Tweets of Wilson Chandler to the blog.

    For those not familiar with Twitter, it is a real-time messaging service which has become quite the craze because when you sign up with twitters you can “follow” the messages of someone else on twitter including celebrities.

    Individuals on Twitter send messages of 140 letters or less in response to the question “What Are You Doing?” through Twitter. As a member of Twitter.com, you can be a “follower” of the messages of another Twitter member. So every time the person you are following sends a message, it comes up on your page and you get to know what they are doing or thinking about in real time.

    Many athletes have joined Twitter. Athletes on Twitter can be found on Blogs with Balls or Twitter-Athletes.com or Athleteswhotweet.com or AthletesTweet.com. Nate Robinson, Quentin Richardson, Rick Rubio and Wilson Chandler are on Twitter. Kareem is marketing himself through Twitter. Erik Snow, Rick Fox, Mugsey Bogues, Allan Houston, Jalen Rose and Kenny Smith are among the retired NBA Ballers on Twitter.

    Bill Simmons has an interesting piece in ESPN Magazine in which he laments at how journalists seem to be increasingly irrelevant as athletes and celebrities communicate directly with their fan bases through blogs, social networking sites such as Facebook and Twitter. Journalism is in a very difficult transition period as it attempts to come to grips with the need for a new revenue generating model. At the same time they must grapple with what is actually news or content that will create a readership.

    So our experiment is to provide a platform for guest athletes who are Twittering. Our first guest is Wilson Chandler. I think this is a good first selection because we get to see him raw before his handlers take over and help him polish his image. For me, his Tweets reflect his youth — cryptic and very personal. Why do you want eyes on you like this?

    Anyway, let me know what you think about the feature as time goes on.

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 16, 2009 | Reply

  9. May be setting up an LBE for tommorrow’s Celtics v. Magic game 7. Will update by tommorrow early afternoon.

    Should be a good one if we’re a go.

    O&B

    Comment by orangeandblue1 | May 16, 2009 | Reply


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