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Tonight  is the NBA Draft Lottery which will determine the draft selection order of the first 15 draft selections.  The order of the first three positions is decided solely by the draft lottery selection.  Positions 4 through 14 are decided by the inverse order of the remaining team’s consolidated order.  The worst position the Knicks can drop to is the eighth position.  Of course, we are hoping for the best — the number one spot.

The following article is a good explanation of how the lottery works.

May 19, 2009 - Posted by | Uncategorized


  1. Notes from back of the bus

    Best guard in the draft has International flavor. Patrick Mills is his name.

    2nd best guard in the draft has International flavor. Brandon Jennings is his name.

    Weak draft, mainly complementary and role players. Would any of this year’s players been drafted in top 10 last year.

    Great draft to make trade

    I smell a “Darko” in the draft. R2 is his name

    Point-guards & wings dominated, just like the league. Points are over-rated (Lawson, Flynn, Manor)

    If Eric Crawford at 6.2, physical, and w/ a shotwas not drafted last year, why is Curry being mentioned.

    Blake Griffin @ 6.8 will be a solid player, but not a star.

    The big guy from UConn is a backup at best.

    Peace & Blessings

    Comment by Statesman2 | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  2. Correction

    That’s Eric Gordon at 6.2 not Crawford. Crawford is ‘Lives’ boy.

    Peace & Blessings

    Comment by Statesman2 | May 19, 2009 | Reply


    I don’t see a real superstar (Kobe or Lebron-like) in this draft.RealGm has The Knicks picking Jeff Teague PG Wake Forrest:

    8. Jeff Teague
    Point Guard. Wake Forest

    I keep going back and looking closer at Stephen Curry to see if I’m missing something that could make him worth the eighth overall pick for a Knicks team that needs a home run and I still can’t see it as anything more than a reach. He would only be this valuable to the Knicks if they were to sign LeBron or Wade next summer, where Curry wouldn’t have to handle the ball as much and could spot-up all day long. Teague is a significantly better player in all aspects of the game other than as a perimeter shooter. But Teague even shot 44.1% from beyond the arc compared to 38.7% for Curry. Teague truly is the better option for the Knicks regardless of what happens over the next year.

    Comment by DLTKnicks | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  4. damn this is the longest half-hour ever!

    Comment by MODI | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  5. Agreed,

    Now they have an entire Lottery Show. Mo money, mo money.

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  6. How do you bring Mr. October in May? Where is Dave Winfield.

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  7. LGK!!!

    Comment by PaulNoize | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  8. AHHHHHHH SHyte Knicks 8th

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  9. ugh. eight consecutive losing seasons. number eight pick. good – memphis moved up! good be some potential there.

    Comment by PaulNoize | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  10. What’s up Paul. Good to read ya. Potential? Memphis? Trades?

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  11. The Clippers? Ugh

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  12. Memphis is squeezed. Even a frugal NY is an attractive trade partner for a relatively flush Cablevision. Imagine a Gasol/Miles for Curry/Lee sign and trade.

    Wow – Clips get Blake Griffin. Happy day in the Z-Bo Compound!

    Comment by PaulNoize | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  13. Paul, not Darius? Heck Naw.

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  14. This is bad for basketball… the west got the top 4 picks…

    The imbalance gets worse

    Comment by MODI | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  15. And the Wizards get closer to returning to the Playoffs. Arenas returns or gets traded for value. Chicago should be back in the playoffs and the Nets will get stronger. Where does that leave us next season. UGGGGGGGH

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  16. I am pisstified. Walsh needs to show some skills this summer. Money is not everything, it’s part of the thing. Where do we go from here. Can we move up? Do we need to move up?

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  17. i am making an extreme point, which is that Memphis is both financially unstable and talent-poor. They are sellers.

    The Knicks are buyers. The Dolans (read: Charles) have dictated that the Knicks will be SMART buyers, but smart buyers who are nonetheless under a great deal of pressure to turn around an eight year losing streak. =(

    We can buy a toxic asset from Memphis, take one step backwards in order to move two steps forward. Darius could be such a figure, though doubtful. Maybe picks get swapped. The point is that there is opportunity to wield market leverage between NY & Memphis in the trade market, and i hope ol’ Donnie wields a fell hand in negotiations.

    Comment by PaulNoize | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  18. I guess the Village be watching Paul, but I hope you are right that Walsh can work something out. I’m not sure why we still need to go backwards. . . . But doesn’t someone need Eddie Curry (Kings? Wizards?)?

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  19. What say Steady, who got it right last year? Danillo Vanilli.

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  20. hope you’re right Paul… does that deal include giving them Nate Robinson?

    Comment by MODI | May 19, 2009 | Reply

  21. Lupica,
    “But even owed nothing, Knicks fans deserve better than this.”

    True, true, but I would argue that no sports fan or spectator is owed more than the dream his ticket money buys.Very rarely does a fan’s input ever force a GM or owner’s decision.It’s about putting asses in seats via a winning, or at least competitive team.This is really a tough draft for most GM’s.Why?Because there is only one sure thing.Everyone else has to prove they know something about the job they get paid for.Unfortunately, it will take about a year to six months to see how smart these guys really are.A few of these guys will be worthy and one or two may actually make a difference to a team next year.This is what you get the big bucks for Donnie.Pressure is on.Let’s see what you got?By the way, did you catch the Laker/Denver game?Pretty physical stuff.Do you think a rook would make much of a difference in a game like that?How many rookies are making an impact at this level of the playoffs?Do you really think a team that plays no D could survive a series like that?No pressure Donnie, because we need a good rookie, but what kind of bank has no security?The problem is not the players, its the fact that we play the wrong way.If you don’t guard the money, someone will always try to take it.We need to learn to defend our shyte.

    “Why do you keep robbing banks Willie (Sutton)?”
    “That’s where the money is!”

    Comment by Tman | May 20, 2009 | Reply

  22. Fanatics,

    The 21st-Century NBA is constructed for point-guards and wings.
    Therefore Brandon Jennings is the guy the Knicks must target.
    Look at the young point guards that make a difference and they have 2 things …S-P-E-E-D & QUICKNESS. See Chris Paul, Tony Parker, Deron Williams, Derrick Rose.

    Jennings is a jet, with a handle. He is not as strong as Rose, but he is even faster with the ball. Just like Rose his jumper is suspect, but with work it will improve.

    Jennings(BJ) vs. Rubio (RR),
    Both played in Europe w/ limited minutes. RR averaged 10 pts. BJ average 8 in fewer minutes. RR is 18, BJ is 19. Both jumpers need work. Both have great handles, while BJ has unbelievable speed & quickness, RR has average to below average speed & quickness. BJ is more of a scoring point, while RR is more of a traditional. Regarding basketball IQ, see Alan Hahn.

    D’Antoni’s D’Influence.

    You guys are pushing for a baller that does one thing and one thing only. Shoot. Steph Curry is not a point, does not setup his teammates, is to frail to play in defense, and yet the Fanatics believe that he is the guy. He’s a shorter version of Crawful. Do the Knicks need another Crawful? There are other aspects to B-A-S-KE-T-B-A-L-L.

    Peace & Blessings

    Comment by Statesman2 | May 20, 2009 | Reply

    • Statesman

      I agree with you not just to be agreeable but b/c the Knicks have a big pop-gun out there in Gallinari, Chandler can spot minutes at the 2, and Hughes can pair in that role.

      The bigger need is not a frail looking tweener jump shooting Stephen Curry whose game might not translate to the NBA, the Bigger need is either a big or a point. Since the preferred bigs will likely be gone by the 8th pick, your boy brandon Jennings if he is as advertised is preferrable.

      Need a point to steady the team.

      Comment by orangeandblue1 | May 21, 2009 | Reply

  23. ROFLMAO Fellas

    “With a lil bit of luck they just might win!” NOT!

    If the 20 odd year history of the Knicks Franchise NBA Lottery experiences teaches Knicks Fans anything it is the following…

    The Knicks Franchise Rolls with the herd of black sheep of the Luck Family e.g., Dumb Luck, Shyt outta Luck, Tough Luck, Lucked Out (The estranged asian product of the Luck family), Bad Luck, No Luck at All (so a long name it must be hispanic).

    You get the picture.

    David Stern is dying cracking up that he hood winked the Knicks into taking in a member of the living dead and a coach that thinks that offense primarily leads to good defense.

    We bought that and a broke lottery pick on the belief that hoodwinker Stern would pony up with a dream lottery pick!


    Comment by orangeandblue1 | May 20, 2009 | Reply

  24. Teague or Curry? Kinda like the difference between
    Melo & Kobe. Curry has a stroke that may Rocket Him to
    become a Superstar. Teague has a Celling like Kobe.
    He’s 6’5 and can play both ends…


    Curry..How can you pass on this Pure shooter?

    Comment by Peaceman | May 20, 2009 | Reply

    • Didn’t a bunch of Hahnites and fanboys poor on them Gallo Euro League youtube vids to hype his entry into NY?

      No beef just veggies bro!

      Comment by orangeandblue1 | May 21, 2009 | Reply

  25. The Cav’s are getting exposed! Batman with no Robin!
    The Magic has too many weapons. The Cav’s have Lebron?

    Lets see if Denver shakes out the “Rust” tomorrow?

    Comment by Peaceman | May 20, 2009 | Reply

  26. @ O&B and Lives…
    HAAAAAAAAAA! Told you the Cav’s weren’t tested
    in their first two series! Hell, the Magic even won a
    game where they played BAD against the Cav’s!
    Poor Lebron and his D-leaguers against the Magic!

    Comment by Peaceman | May 21, 2009 | Reply

    • Check the previous threads and you’ll see that I have been on record as stating that the Magic would present Cleveland with a more difficult Conference Finals series.

      We also spoke about this series and I discussed the possibility that the Magic’s personnel and style of play could result in an upset over the Cavaliers.

      Are only disagreement was that you wouldn’t see a Magic series win as an upset.

      Too bad for Cleveland their SPorts Curse may outlive Lebron!

      Too bad!

      Comment by orangeandblue1 | May 21, 2009 | Reply

  27. Ha Ha Ha. Since I turned off the game at half-time, I didn’t realize the Magic won. But when I read your Post, I thought the Magic clobbered the Cavs, but it seems that the Magic won by one point. ONE POINT after the Cavs had an 8 day layoff. HA HA HA HA. We’ll see.

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | May 21, 2009 | Reply

    • The playoffs have been Oakleyesque!so far!That’s what playing this game at the highest level is supposed to be about.Cupcakes need not apply!Charles Barkley has been incredibly on the money with his analysis.Cleveland looked like a cheap suit last night.They folded and gave it up.If they give up the next one, they’re done, and the LeaveBron rumors will explode.What surprised me the most was that Cleveland’s Defense left town.Defense is lunch pail stuff, and they left theis at home, at home.Shame! Shame!Their bench quit on them, except Pavlovich who didn’t even play.LeBron put on a magnificent show,but he also proved that you can’t do it alone, and certainly not without defense and rebounding.The C’s held the N’O, Magic pretty well with smaller slower guys.Cleveland needs to put a stop on at least one of the Magic’s forwards, or the big Orlando three can change their name to the Magi Kingdom.LA has to be watching with jaw saliva dripping while chanting, If we just get past Denver, we can overrun the Magic Kingdom and it will be ours.Ha, ha, ha!
      I have no problem with Curry(half step slow),except No D’Antoni said he wants him in today’s paper.Curry may grow, or not, (tall daddy, short mom, but what makes him different than his sharpshooting, taller, step slow, no D, Dad?I liked his dad at Charlotte mostly, but he was what he was.Still, I could live with the gamble, good kid who could get bigger, stronger, smarter.Did Jeff Teague say he was returning to school?Don’t see his name anywhere.Like his size, athleticism and upside.Finally, let me be the fist, although I’m probably not, to say, If our team doesn’t come out of training camp playing some kind of reasonable D, Mike needs to go!Even a no D-loving dummy like Karl, loved him at NC, has seen the light.Flip the switch Mike, you’re standing in the dark.LGK

      Comment by Tman | May 21, 2009 | Reply

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