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June 25, 2009 - Posted by | Eric Maynor, Gerald Henderson, Jonny Flynn, Live Blogging Event, NBA Draft, NBA Lottery, New York Knicks, Rick Rubio, Ty Lawson | , , , , , , , , , , , ,


  1. Hey folks, now that I am doen with my reports, following is my ranking of the guards as they should be considered by the New York Knicks:

    1. Ricky Rubio
    2. Stephon Curry
    3. Tyreke Evans
    4. Jrue Holiday
    5. Tywon Lawson
    6. Jonny Flynn
    7. Brandon Jennings
    8. DeMar Derozan
    9. Eric Maynor
    10. Gerald Henderson

    Not considered:
    Jeff Teague
    Patrick Mills

    I recognize that O&B is having considerable difficulty accepting that Brandon Jennings does not show well, but he doesn’t. It is certainly easier to project improvement for those that show improvement and a willingness to improve. Jennings is a bigger question mark than some of the others. Heart + talent will most often out perform talent alone. Let Jennings learn on someone else’s dime.

    Comment by igmknicks | June 25, 2009 | Reply

    • IGM

      “It is certainly easier to project improvement for those that show improvement and a willingness to improve. Jennings is a bigger question mark than some of the others. Heart + talent will most often out perform talent alone.”

      You missed my point. I’m not of the position that the Knicks should not draft your darlings-Rubio, Curry- I’m of the position that the Knicks shouldn’t mortgage are young stud Chandler to move up to obtain either of those two Guys.

      I was really pleased looking at Rubio’s passing skills, and hope that Curry is more Mark Price redux than J.J. Reddick Reduced. What I’m saying is that the question marks that surround Rubio, his slight frame lack of outside shot and below the rim play and the questions marks that surround Curry, lateral speed and defensive abilities, high volume shooter whose more limited role in the NBA might slow his production, and the kids struggles against athletic long defenders are question marks that give me the same equal room for pause that Jennings question marks should give the average NBA observer and Knicks’ fan.

      For References and coverage of those deficiencies see below:—ricky-rubio.html

      Like I said in a prior thread I don’t consider you a mouthpiece of the MSM, you actually are thorought about the material you present. Though I wonder how it is that Rubio’s or Curry’s faults are better addressed than that of Jennings, is it heart? How do you know Jennings has none? Do you personally know the kid.

      I won’t question Stephen Curry’s or Ricky Rubio’s heart one carried his team to a near final 4 birth and then transitioned to play the point and led the nation in scoring, the other started playing in the Spanish league as a 14 year old Kid, he played with torn ligaments in the Gold Medal game in the olympics. From what I’ve read of both I actually like both kids.

      But IMHO, whether it was the result of poor academics or economic need, Brandon’s decision to play out of his comfort zone to a foreign country and culture to a land where most don’t speak his language to a league and team that probrably didn’t expect him to stay and didn’t invest sufficiently in his development and to still come into that dissapointing experience and gather himself to work on his areas of defficiencies and move on with a positive perspective on the experience shows as much heart as that shown by Rubio and Curry who played close to strong and positive support networks.

      That said there are players I prefer over Jennings, as there are also players I prefer over Curry or Rubio.

      Anyone of us may eat crow on this pick em and guesse em version of the NBA Draft.

      This is my final draft board:

      1 Tyreke Evans
      2 Jordan Hill
      3 Hashemm Thabeet
      4 Johnny Flynn
      5 Ricky Rubio
      6 Eric Maynor
      7 Brandon Jennings
      8 Stephen Curry

      Whomever it is we get, I hope it pans out as the Knicks success should be the end goal for all Knicks Fans

      This is O&B and I approve this message

      Comment by orangeandblue1 | June 25, 2009 | Reply

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    • My question is why Mike Breen is still an Asshole?

      Comment by Peaceman | June 25, 2009 | Reply

  3. Really holding out hope that Jordan Hill slips down the ladder and falls to us at #8 – that’d be ideal in my book!

    My draft ranking i guess pans out like:

    1) Griffin
    2) Thabeet
    3) Rubio
    4) Hill
    5) Harden
    6) Curry
    7) Evans
    8) Lawson

    Yup, i like Lawson over Jonny, Jrue & Jennings. Love to see the Knicks somehow pick up BJ Mullens also, we badly need a project big man to fill that classic Jackie Butler / Michael Sweetney / Jerrod Mustaf role. =)

    Comment by Paul | June 25, 2009 | Reply

    • Ditto you on your enthusiasm for Tyreke Lawson!

      Comment by orangeandblue1 | June 25, 2009 | Reply

  4. Andy Katz/ESPN is reporting that the Knicks have acquired the Lakers’ #29 pick for $3M in cash. Dolan finally loosening the purse strings after a couple of years of fiscal frugality?

    Comment by Paul | June 25, 2009 | Reply

    • I’ll give our Corpse GM Plenty o Props,…

      LOL think Corpse Bride!

      But seriously last year was the wrong time to spend money on late round draft picks. Walsh and the Braintrust had to clear the slate of some of the dead weight contracts e.g., James, Crawford, Z-Bo and this week possibly Q-Richardson.

      With cap and team slots cleared the Knicks can now go to work on restocking the cupboard!

      Great work thus far Walshy!

      Comment by orangeandblue1 | June 25, 2009 | Reply

  5. That Laker pick my end up The One and only Jeff Teague!
    A young GUN! Ihis draft is going tobe filled with surprises!

    Take a look at Cleveland. They now Have SHAQ and are hell
    bent on signing Vince Carter! If they do, the Chip belongs to the CAVS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by Peaceman | June 25, 2009 | Reply

  6. Vinanity looks more likely Orlando-bound for Rafer, Lee & Battie.

    Peaceman, Teague at 29 would be a nice value pick for us! Obviously, i would feel more comfortable drafting two guards if Donnie’s Darko/Q trade were locked in. 😉

    And besides, i am still rooting for Hill or Harden to fall to #8, and then a point at #29. LGK!

    Comment by Paul | June 25, 2009 | Reply

  7. With Darko on our team we’ve succeeded in resurrecting the truly living undead, Milli&Vanilli.Help! I think I see a bright white light at the end of a long Darko tunnel.Aw shyte, it’s only the A train, hopefully Ricky Ricardo is not on it.Is this any way to repay us for D-Day and the Marshall Plan?”Euro’s invade New York Knickerbockers”, say, isn’t that a Dutch name?Is there any method to this Caucasian madness?Well,he is tall!Only the Darko and Mr.Stern know!LGK?

    Comment by Tman | June 25, 2009 | Reply

    • Haha, personally i am feeling the Donnie/Darko deal.

      All we need now is to deal Harrington/Chandler/#1 to the Mavs for Nowitski, and sign Nash to the mid-level exemption. =)

      Ken Reeves for assistant coach?

      Comment by Paul | June 25, 2009 | Reply

    • Haha, personally i am feeling the Donnie/Darko deal.

      All we need now is to deal Harrington/Chandler/#1 to the Mavs for Nowitski, and sign Nash to the mid-level exemption. =)

      Ken Reeves for assistant coach?

      Plus, Michael Jackson is dead.

      Comment by Paul | June 25, 2009 | Reply

  8. “This has nothing to do with David Lee.”

    A man of the people with a common vision that many of us share, on our 1st round pick:

    “Of course it does. This move gives the Knicks flexibility to sign and trade Lee and still leave room for two free agents from next summer’s Greatest Class There Ever Was or Will Be. To this nucleus, LeBron James isn’t coming alone.(He could even bring Old Man Shaq for peanuts if he wanted to.He’ll be available!)

    We cannot knock the strategy. Time will tell about its execution. But for the team that needs everything, a pick of what it thinks is the best player available is the way to go”.

    There is a plan, that’s obvious.Let’s see if LeMo’Money signs his extention this summer.The Shaq thing is a one year experiment, unless they win very big.Shaq couldn’t stay motivated to do it twice in Miami.But Cleveland is a better team, Still age conquers all.Keep an eye on what, right now, looks like a disaster in Brooklyn.Their plan was just approved and it’s moving forward again.Shyte may all come together there and become very attractive to LeCleava.Remember it’s about a piece of the game, not just $$$, That’s the next step to being like Mike, Magic, being like his man JZ.Ownership is the real prize, otherwise your just a well paid………..

    Comment by Seerman | June 26, 2009 | Reply

  9. Coincidentally, the AP reports;
    Jordan interested in Bobcats

    Michael Jordan may put team together to purchase Bobcats
    Jordan is a majority owner who has final say in basketball decisions
    Bob Johnson is interested in selling team after huge financial losses since 2006

    CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) — The Charlotte Bobcats are for sale and Michael Jordan is interested.

    First, he has to put an ownership group together.

    Addressing the issue on Thursday night for the first time since the news last month that majority owner Bob Johnson is seeking to sell, Jordan shied away from going into detail about his plans. But Jordan, who holds a minority stake in the team and runs basketball operations, made it clear he’d like to gain majority control.

    “I would like to put together a team to do that, yeah,” Jordan said.

    Jordan then quickly turned the attention back to his selection of Gerald Henderson of Duke with the 12th pick in the NBA draft and didn’t take further questions on the ownership issue.

    It remains unclear if Jordan is close to securing the investors and money needed to buy the team, for which Johnson paid $300 million.

    Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, became the first black majority owner of a major professional sports team when he was awarded the expansion team in 2003.

    But the club, which began play in 2004-05 season, has struggled to sell tickets and sponsorships and Johnson has lost millions.

    Johnson is using a New York-based sports financial services firm in hopes of either securing more investors or selling the team outright.

    Jordan’s star quality in his home state could help boost the franchise, but it’s uncertain if he could agree with Johnson on a price.

    Forbes magazine recently valued the team at $284 million, less than Johnson’s expansion fee. The team plays in a city hard hit by the financial crisis, and the credit crunch could hurt any deal of that magnitude.

    However, the team also keeps all profits from the downtown Charlotte arena it operates and the Bobcats have improved on the court. Jordan hired Hall of Fame coach Larry Brown last year and he guided the Bobcats to a 35-47 record, the best in the franchise’s five seasons.

    An ownership group, hmmmm

    Comment by Mo'moneyman | June 26, 2009 | Reply

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