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David Lee Still Looking For Sign and Trades, One Year Deal With Knicks Still Likely

In an interview with, David Lee says that he is frustrated but after meeting with Walsh is very clear on the Knicks’ perspective regarding 2010.  Lee wants to remain a Knick, but understands that he is unlikely to be here more than one more year.

It’s been a little frustrating, but my agent came up a couple of weeks ago and we had a meeting with Donnie Walsh and Mike D’Antoni and found out where we were, and the purpose behind what’s going on, and it kind of all makes sense to me now,” Lee said. “We agreed on what I thought I was worth, so it’s not a money issue. What it comes down to is they need their flexibility for the 2010 summer. Whether they can get LeBron or not, they need to have the flexibility to make a run at a guy like that. And that’s completely understandable from my standpoint. We’re going to continue to work on a few sign-and-trade possibilities; otherwise, we’ll continue to work on a one-year-deal.

“It has to be something where the Knicks can dump another salary or get another player in return they really want to have around,” Lee said. “There’s a couple of possibilities out there, and we’ll see if those come true, otherwise we’ll start talking to the Knicks about what we want to do for a one-year deal.”

Given the current unsubstantiated rumors about Kahn flying to Spain so that he can complete a deal with New York, fans may conclude that David Lee may be part of such a deal.  The only problem is that Rubio’s draft rights are not the financial equivalent of $9 million (Lee’s desired annual average).   The other problem is that Rambis may be flying to Europe too to talk to Rubio (Is he working on the Knick deal too?).

Hoopsworld’s analysis suggests that a deal would have to include Curry or Jeffrie’s contract and take into consideration the impact of the base year salary provisions of the CBA.

When the talk comes to the Knicks dumping another salary, it has to be Jared Jefferies or Eddy Curry. Plus, if Lee’s contract becomes anything near what he is looking for ($8-10 million to start) – or really anything over $2,235,041 – he becomes a Base Year Contract player, which makes working a trade more difficult because the Knicks can only take back half the value. The trade would have to be large enough so the BYC part of the trade could be absorbed in the overall total amount of the deal.

In essence, it makes a sign-and-trade pretty unlikely, but not impossible.

The most likely scenario is that Lee signs a one-year contract and Walsh tries to deal with the hard issues of building a contender next year.

ADDENDUM: Some of you may be interested in Brendan Haywood’s half-ass apology to gays for his anti-gay sentiments in his diss of Stephon Marbury’s questionable behavior. Check it out at Yardbarker:My Apology

August 17, 2009 - Posted by | David Lee, Donnie Walsh, Rick Rubio


  1. What a sad place to be as a Knick Fan. However, as the
    Post, News and Newsday Knick blogs are dead and don’t have
    Isiah Thomas to abuse. They killed themself’s with their
    bias attacks at someone that brought hope to this city.
    This current state of our Knicks may be lower than when
    Clarence Weatherspoon, Shandon Anderson and Howard Isley
    were our Marque players….Wow. Those were the two years
    I didn’t watch the Knicks. Two years out of a lifetime!
    The 2010 pipe dream has wore down even the fix fanboys!
    Walsh had better make a move because it just may be year
    three from my life that I’m not watching the Knicks.
    Below is the only type commericals MSG will be able to sell
    during Knicks games this year:

    Comment by Peaceman | August 17, 2009 | Reply

  2. ….Kidd,Hill,Miller,Sessions,Rubio, who’s the latest on the list of players The Knicks can’t acquire.

    Comment by D L T Knicks | August 17, 2009 | Reply

  3. The gay porno blog has killed all activity on Alan’s blog. Why even mag a blog on that? Marbury kiils everything. David Lee and Rubio will be a Knick.

    Comment by American | August 17, 2009 | Reply

  4. Here’s the latest from the big three….

    Alan: posting about Marbury gay porno.
    Berman: hasn’t updated his blog in 11 days.
    Isola: nothing going on as usual….last post from 2 weeks ago about opening vs Miami. yawn.

    Comment by American | August 17, 2009 | Reply

  5. You guys need to relax. Walsh has added Milicic and two rookies. That is three moves already. It is not Alan Hahns fault the fix blog is dead right now. Almost nothing is going on in the NBA anywhere. Take a vacation and relax and stop taking yourselves so seriously.

    Comment by Green Man | August 18, 2009 | Reply

    • Green Man must not be a Knick fan(Green?..hmmm).Us true Knicks fans are expecting more from our team. Darko,a player who no team wants, is not my idea of making a move.Lee and N8 are unsigned.Sessions is still out there.Kidd,Hill and Miller are off to greener pasture.The rookies are just that,Rookies.Don’t expect them to help this year.I don’t think he(Walsh) has got anything done this summer,only talk and hope.

      Comment by D L T Knicks | August 18, 2009 | Reply

    • Co-Signing DLT’s post.

      Comment by livesinnewjersey | August 18, 2009 | Reply

      • Good point, Green Man. Alan is the man and Walsh is doing what he said he would do. Milicic was a very skilled player when he was drafted but he wasn’t used right. He is going to be a good player in D’Antoni’s system.

        Comment by blueman | August 18, 2009

    • If Green boy Blue Boy and his multihued multiple personalities want to floss and blow Hahn go to the Fix.

      If you have a valid argument with a detailed rationale and structure then throw down or … be get out!

      Comment by orangeandblue1 | August 18, 2009 | Reply

      • You live in NJ and like gay porn.

        Comment by THall | August 18, 2009

  6. Green Man,
    It’s taking the KNICKS serious that is the problem.
    Lets review the three moves Walsh has made:

    1. Milcic….is this a move? In fairness, maybe.
    However, this is it for him. He must produce
    big time to salvage his career.

    2. You can also credit the plants I water if draft
    picks are considered a move. I would credit walsh
    more with selecting Almond for summer league.

    3. Walsh should have not lost out on Steve Curry.
    He would have added a hope of watching a future
    Super Star. Both our draft picks IMO have the celling
    of Marty Collins.

    4. It is Alan’s fault his blog sleeps with Billy Mays.
    We Knick fans don’t give a shit about “Almost nothing
    is going on in the NBA” Hell, what’s up with Eddy Curry?
    What are the contract players doing RIGHT NOW? What’s
    the skinny on Morris Almond? Are we going to sign him?

    5. It takes time but the cream rises to the TOP.
    THIS BLOG IS “THE BLOG” so roll here or get rolled over!


    Comment by Peaceman | August 18, 2009 | Reply

    • Co-sign Peaceman

      You would think that Hahn would lay off the anti-gay language in his Thall cloak but I underestimated him.

      Comment by orangeandblue1 | August 19, 2009 | Reply

  7. Actually, Alan may want to rethink his current blog post. He highlights the following comment by Brendan Haywood as though it is gospel:

    “At first it was cool, but after a while it just became disturbing. He’s on YouTube crying with no shirt on for no reason, sweating while his boy’s rubbing his shoulders. What’s that about? That’s like gay porn. I don’t understand it. He’s dancing to a song called ‘Barbie Doll’, doing like stripper moves. I have no idea what’s going on with the guy, it’s almost like he’s trying to end his own career. There’s not a GM out there that would touch Marbury right now… Have you seen the ‘Barbie Doll’ clip? Click on YouTube and go to Barbie Doll. There’s no way any other professional athletes would wanna get dressed around this guy, because you gotta think something is a little, he’s swinging from both sides of the fence.”

    Although Alan’s elevation of Haywood’s comments and Newsday’s emphasis (in bold) on Haywood’s homophobic statement is probably just another way of adding some excitement to the summer blog, his lack of commentary about the anti-gay sentiment and use of Haywood to support criticism of Marbury gives the appearance that he is not critical of Haywood’s homophobic comment.

    After the revelations by John Amaechi and the foolishness by my Chi-town homeboy, Tim Hardaway, Haywood, a bright guy, may find himself in more trouble with Stern than Marbury’s non-story.

    Plus the only thing interesting about Marbury’s puffery is that he made it public and it’s on You-tube. Folks are tossing out false sanctimony — not only do millions of Americans commit the illegal act of smoking weed, it is a growth industry (pun intended) in this horrid economy. More seriously, you forget that Robert “The Chief” Parish was an unabashed pothead. (Wasn’t he growing it in his crib?). And if you watch a little “Entertainment Tonight,” tomorrow, you’ll see Brad Pitt, and maybe a few other stars admit to smoking a little ganja.

    This is nothing but a Marbury hard-on. You folks kickin’ Starburychild’s exhibitionist azz doesn’t bother me, but the false morality deserves a spotlight as much as Marbury’s puffery deserves to be snatched out of the spotlight behind his home camera.

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | August 18, 2009 | Reply

  8. Knick Fanatic exclusive:

    It was one hour after the REAL MVP of the 2009 NBA
    Champs Laker Trevor Ariza would make the whole Laker Locker room laugh. Do it said Kobe! Do it said Phil Jackson.
    Ariza called Larry Browns Home number and left the Audio
    of the Below on Brown’s answering Machine. The X-Knick and
    43RD pick of his draft had won a chip. Delusionial “Said Ariza?” The Entire Championship team wittnessed Ariza leave this Audio on Brown’s Machine while the Champaigne Flowed:

    Comment by Peaceman | August 18, 2009 | Reply

  9. Lives,

    Didn’t know about the Haywood comments as I’m a little out of loop this summer. But your last post nailed it. And Hahn obviously dropped the ball on the real story.

    As for Marbury, I do not think that he is “crazy”, but only the freeist athlete in America. This is what a basketball mid-life crisis might look like from a child basketball prodigy who has been programmed since birth to fall in line into “the conveyor belt’ (from Rhoden’s 40 million dollar slaves). In his own very eccentric way he is rejecting a system that has told him how to walk, talk, and act. He is saying fuck you, I’m a free man! And he has the money to do it. And whatever your opinion is of swallowing vaseline or crying on camera, all of it is all very harmless. I suppose that if exhibited more “normal” behavior and just say, beat his wife or something, he might land a roster spot.

    What’s up Peace!

    Listen, it’s Stephen Curry — not Steve. It’s Mardy Collins — not Marty. Next I was expecting Morris Chestnut instead of Almond but you pleasantly surprised me! Oh, and David and Spike ain’t related… 🙂

    Comment by MODI | August 18, 2009 | Reply

    • Yes, Brendan Haywood’s “gay bashing” has come back to bite him in the ass so to speak. Check out The Matter of Brendan Haywood on and Haywood’s half-ass apology.

      Wish I had time to write more than a reference note, but it is what it shouldn’t be.

      Comment by livesinnewjersey | August 18, 2009 | Reply

  10. LOL Charles or Charley? BTW…Dave and Spike are
    related. General Robert E. LEE is their
    Great,Great,Great Grandfather.

    Comment by Peaceman | August 18, 2009 | Reply

  11. Good interview with Donnie Walsh @ I love Donnie’s coolness under media fire. He is definitely good at dealing with the media, almost on the levels of Mario Cuomo and Jesse Jackson, Sr. Still, that skill allows him to make nothing sound like something. . . .for example, he said he never promised that we would win, but he said right off the bat that our goal was the playoffs and to be competitive. So does that mean that winning is always our goal, but I didn’t say we would actually achieve it.

    You go Donnie! Love the interview.

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | August 18, 2009 | Reply

  12. David Stern goes to Harlem barbershop to talk shop with Bill Rhoden and the fellas. Good stuff.

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | August 18, 2009 | Reply

  13. ‘Q’ saga shows what NBA teams truly value
    from Interesting.

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | August 18, 2009 | Reply

  14. From Twitter:

    nate_robinsonCops pulled me over cuz my windows were 2 dark(but my windows were down) lol how funny is that.. SMHabout 1 hour ago from UberTwitter (Copied at 6:28pm)

    nate_robinsonIam still pulled over and its been 35min they have me sit n in my truck like I dnt have s#*+ 2 do lolabout 1 hour ago from UberTwitter

    Fanatics, see Twitter posts in second sidebar of this blog.

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | August 18, 2009 | Reply

  15. Nate Arrested For Traffic Infraction

    Aug 18, 2009 7:16 PM EST
    Nate Robinson was arrested for driving with a suspended license, apparently after being pulled over in the Bronx because his car’s windows were too dark.

    Nets’ rookie Terrence Williams was also in the car with Robinson.

    Comment by D L T Knicks | August 18, 2009 | Reply

  16. Thanks for the link Lives..

    Peaceman — you are FUNNY!!!

    Comment by MODI | August 18, 2009 | Reply

  17. Blueman is Heri. This is the worst blog ever. The same 3 guys sucking each other off and Heri talking to himself. LOL.

    Comment by THall | August 18, 2009 | Reply

  18. Blueman aka Heri:

    You were defending Hahn in the last blog? hahahahahaa You really need to defend yourself dude!

    Rubio will not be a Knick. You are still talking out of your Helmet!

    I am so glad we brought in a 6+ million dollar GM who does nothing. Where would we be without him?


    As for crack, you hang out at the Jiffy Lube and you and Heri have a different take on what that is! If they are smoking your crack, you must be getting a hefty discount on the KY! lol

    This fanatics funeral blog is DEAD but just remember….Keep Dumb Alive!


    Comment by THall | August 18, 2009 | Reply

  19. Fanatics:
    Pay no attention to the Trolls. Like Rush and Drossman, they often go away if you give them no ink.

    As to Walsh’s press interview cited by Lives in #11, the Knicks GM offers newspeak and prevarication in the face of reality—winning goals and getting under the cap count more than winning games. Thus the goal of goals of competing and making the playoffs count more than actually competing and making the playoffs. In regard to adding a player for this year: “I can’t add a player if it interferes with my free agency situation next year.” In regard to the question if there is a player he is interested in acquiring this year” he responded: “I am not worried about names; I am worried about players who fit in with what we are trying to do.” That seems to be players who cost little no matter how they may perform.

    Thus for the forthcoming 2009 – 2010 season, Walsh’s attitude reminds me of former Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld: “As you know, you go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.”

    As to what player(s) he is interested in pursuing on July 1st, 2010, he responded “When we get to that day on July 1st, then I’ll know.” Once again Rummy said: “There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that we now know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don’t know.”

    On the matter of winning now, that is not as important as having a winning goal and he will not be deterred from pursuing the Holy Grail of cap space for the day of Jubilee on July 1st 2010. All success is measured by what it costs in cap space, so that winning or not winning now is not evidence of how much has been achieved or is to be achieved. Similarly Rummy once responded to the question of why the U.S. found no WMD’s in Iraq by stating: “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.”

    Thus Walsh offers insight on how to keep a job for at least three years, starve the company to virtually death in the first two years but promise Nirvana in the 3rd. Finally, I must credit Rummy for saying: “Ultimately the truth gets out, notwithstanding people’s efforts to the contrary.”

    Comment by Post-up Prince | August 19, 2009 | Reply

    • Wow. That is a perfect analogy-summation. LMAO.

      Comment by livesinnewjersey | August 19, 2009 | Reply

    • Shut up you ignorant SOB. I am about tired of your sh#t.

      Comment by ed drossman | August 19, 2009 | Reply

      • This Blog is now complete! We’ve always had great minds
        and hearts posting here….now we have an azzhole, which
        is an important part of anything living, to excrete waste!

        Comment by Peaceman | August 19, 2009

  20. Shaq is too Funny:
    Never has there been a Cleveland Cavaliers game that LeBron James(notes) has played in that didn’t showcase him as the star of the show. That changes on Nov. 11 when the Cavs visit the Orlando Magic. Even James will be bumped to the marquee’s second rung to make room for the clash between Shaquille O’Neal and Dwight Howard.

    “That’s all everybody is talking about,” Howard said in a phone interview recently. “People that hit me up on Twitter, that’s the first thing they say, ‘Are you ready for Shaq?’ ”

    For Howard, there’s no escaping Shaq now. After losing to the Magic in the Eastern Conference finals, the Cavaliers traded for O’Neal to help them better match up with Howard. The rivalry between the two centers escalated last season when O’Neal accused Howard of hijacking his Superman title and claimed he had already “invented” everything Howard had done. O’Neal also took shots at Magic coach Stan Van Gundy, memorably labeling his former Miami coach the “Master of Panic.” During the NBA Finals, Shaq posted a rather unflattering picture of what he said the “love child” of Howard and Van Gundy would look like.

    Anyone see what that Picture looked like? Please share if you’ve seen it!

    Comment by Peaceman | August 19, 2009 | Reply


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    Comment by Peaceman | August 19, 2009 | Reply

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