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A Little Something, Something From Other Blogs and Fanatics Old School Dance Team Prep:Updated

Good evening Gents. Not much new to report.  I’ve been doing a little blog hopping this evening and found a few things that might pique your interest.  At the website 7 seconds or mess, there is a podcast interview with a guy nicknamed KD and he says some things of interest about the Knicks. Gotcha Peaceman.  No it is not your KD, it’s a sportswriter named Kelly Dwyer for Yahoo Sports.  I love how 7som uses video and audio on its site.   Hey Peace, maybe you or another Fanatic would like to do a little Blog Radio show.   As I said a long time ago, my voice is only good for print and I don’t think fast enough to do a talk show.  But that would be a nice feature.  Check it out.

Then there are those hanging on LeBron’s every turd.  He says it and they will come, in more ways than one, Tman.  Now, he shoots down the loyalty argument as a reason for staying in Cleveland because his loyalty is to the city of Akron as a Native Son, not necessarily to the Cleveland franchise. So does that mean he’s coming to New York?  Well, he keeps keeping the door open for a move. Wade is keeping the door open too, but he is mentioning New Jersey as the attractive team with both cap space and players for a Championship run.  It’s business folks.  Are they using and punkin’ New York like Kidd and Hill?

I also see that IGM was playing the name game at Posting and Toasting where, to pass the time away, they asked readers to think of a new name for the Knicks.  Of course, most Fanatic fans are trying to be a lot more positive than me, so there were some nice names.  My most favorite and least appropriate was the New York Defenders.

I am not writing anything about Michael Beasley except to wish him luck in this part of his life’s journey.

Check out the new poll on the side bar.  RoCk tHe VoTe.

Update: Talk About Getting Into A Mess In 7seconds or Less — Poor Plax.

I must admit that I have not really paid attention to the Plaxico Burress situation.  I really couldn’t take listening to another athlete go over the edge of arrogant idiocy.  Last week, I heard his attorney say that his client was being sentenced as a celebrity for a mistake that no one else would go to jail for.  Yeah, right, I thought, lawyers will say anything.  But then I saw this E60 clip with Plaxico explaining the incident.   Twenty months to two years in jail for that?   That’s unbelievable, crazy and excessive.  Unbelievable.  They’re going to spend our taxpayer money to jail a fool instead of a criminal. Unbelievable.

And I couldn’t believe how self-righteous Cris Carter was in the next clip.  I like Cris Carter.  He has always been a class act; but he who throws stones better not be doing it from a glass house. He said that Burress was not remorseful.  Remorse?  How much more fu*king remorseful can you be when you are going to jail for a stupid accident that injured no one but himself? Two years for carrying a gun? Two years for shooting yourself in the leg? C’mon.  Where are those second amendment folks now?  And for the record, I am not definitely in favor of gun control, but this result is ridiculous.

With that said, I tried to find the “Burress Explanation Clip” to post directly onto this site; instead I found the following on YouTube and as disgusted and perplexed as I am at that plea deal, I couldn’t resist making you laugh one more time.


I’m thinking about posting a competition for our very own Fanatics Old School Dance Team.  We select ten old school honeys from a group of twenty.  So far invitations have been accepted by Sophia Loren, Pam Grier, Jane Mansfield, Rita Moreno, Tamara Dobson, Rita Hayworth, Dorothy Dandridge, Lena Horne, Jane Russell, Raquel Welch, Angela Bassett, Josephine Baker, Marilyn Monroe, and  Diahann Carroll.  I need to send out more invitations.  Do you guys have any ideas? ( I’d put my ten old schoolers up against any ten Newbies in the world, including Miami’s Dance Champions. LOL!!!)

Diahann carroll

Diahann carroll

Sophia Loren

Sophia Loren

Rita Moreno

Rita Moreno

Jane Russell

Jane Russell

Pam Grier
Pam Grier


`Post Up, those are great suggestions.  I will send out an invitation to each one.  Hedy Lamar is fine, but she is so old school that they didn’t see flesh as a virtue in those days.  I can’t find a good pic that will prove she would wear our skimpy dance costumes.  Still, she is special.`

Hedy Lamarr

Hedy Lamarr

Gina Lollobrigida

Gina Lollobrigida


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  1. Lives:

    Good stuff to pass the time while we wait and wait for Walsh to do his Turtle steps before training camp. Some of my oldies but favorite goodies to tender invitations to the dance tryout are: Hedy Lamar, Marilyn Monroe, Linda Darnell, Gina Lollobrigida, and Elizabeth Taylor. If you locate photos of the above in their prime, you can see why I would invite the above group to enter the competition.

    Comment by Post-up Prince | August 25, 2009 | Reply

  2. Whasssssssup Fanatics!

    Throw some fine azz ladies on the blog and Brudder Cooley will get atcha in a Heart Beat… Let’s be real, Sophia #1, Dorothy D #2, and word on the stret from a reliable source, was Rita Hayworth was sure enough Freaky Freak… So there you have it. Cooley’s Triplets… A South BX Brudder cannot live by bread alone. Got to have that meat LIVES IN NJ…

    You know how this soldier roles, On Cruise Control.

    As for the Knicks. There is a time and place for everything, and NOW IS NOT THE TIME, as long as the BX Bombers are whipping up on that Bosox Azz, we are in the other BBALL Mode… I’m a BX Boy for Life, so I’m on that plain Fanatics until th real whistles blow and some Ballers are running up and down a court. Until then, it is Bombers and Giants time… Plus this brudder keeps his mind on his money and his money on his mind, so you also know all the appropriate atention is on the GRIND. You know my motto, “If it don’t make dollars then it don’t make sense”…Be Easy!

    One Love My Brothers…

    Keep it CRACKIN Cooley Style!

    Comment by Cooleyhigh | August 25, 2009 | Reply

  3. Worth repeating from Brother Cooley:

    “Throw some fine azz ladies on the blog and Brudder Cooley will get atcha in a Heart Beat… Let’s be real, Sophia #1, Dorothy D #2, and word on the stret from a reliable source, was Rita Hayworth was sure enough Freaky Freak”

    I knew that would get your attention. LOL. Your top three are hard to beat, but if it’s meat (right Statesman) we’re talking about (where is the beef?) then Pam Grier might need to push somebody into the four spot. But I tell you, it is hard to argue against Sophia Loren, from Southern Italy, as top of the line. I am still looking for this pic I saw a decade ago which is one of the most gorgeous pictures I have ever seen in my life of anything. In fact, it was probably my imagination, it was so good looking.

    I added an update Gents. Check out the Plaxico tapes and my nod to Post-Up for his pin-up add-ons. I’ll pull the competition post together in a couple of days, unless Sessions is signed before the end of the week. Yeah right. Do you believe that?

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | August 25, 2009 | Reply

  4. Lives,

    The “fine-azz” woman work for me as well.We need something to stay awake while the Turtle works his sloooooooooooooow magic.

    Comment by D L T Knicks | August 25, 2009 | Reply

    • Thanks DLT. I’m glad you appreciate it (Lord knows I don’t mind scrolling like the Turtle on this page.) But, I woke up this morning still laughing at Statesman’s disapproval of my topic selection.

      Comment by livesinnewjersey | August 26, 2009 | Reply

  5. It is getting strange in here. Has KnicksDefense taken over the programming. If so, can we get a RE-POST of his classic, “Nuthin” including the Spanish version “Nada”. ‘Lives’, A mind is a terrible thing to waste. I will pass on the “Mindless B.S.” game.

    However if I did lower myself to play this game I would assign duties. I would throw in Loneta McKee(for you red-bone lovers), Chaka Khan (young version) to add some soul, Jayne Kennedy (to demostrate skills), Tina Turner(196o-version) to lead the dance routines. Vanity will be in charge of the clothing.

    Finally a Knicks is first in something. He will lead us to the promise land.

    Ball Don’t Lie
    Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:00 am EDT
    The top 10 lottery busts of the last decade

    10. Yi Jianlian(notes), Milwaukee Bucks, taken sixth overall in 2007
    Some say Yi was born in 1987. Others contend he might have been born a year earlier, or even three years before. Most contend he’s a willowy waste of a 7-foot frame, who refuses to get to the line, work on anything but a low-percentage long jumper, while allowing opponents to walk all over him defensively and on the boards.

    9. Kedrick Brown, Boston Celtics, taken 11th overall in 2001
    He wasn’t exactly taken ahead of Jordan, Stockton or Malone; but by my count, Brown was selected ahead of 15 players who started an NBA game last year. An athletic … something, who was working out of a junior college long enough to impress Chris Wallace and the C’s, Brown was an immediate washout.

    8. Rodney White, Detroit Pistons, taken ninth overall in 2001
    He came with a slightly shinier resume than Kedrick Brown, selected with an Andy Katz stamp of approval by Joe Dumars, who was in his first year as Detroit’s personnel chief (after merely working as a consultant the year before). White had skills and an offensive touch, but he never put any work into that game of his.

    7. Yaroslav Korolev(notes), Los Angeles Clippers, taken 12th overall in 2005
    I watch a lot of basketball, and as a curious sort, I’m often on the lookout during garbage time for prospects both heralded and unknown. And yet, despite his lottery status, I never saw a second of Korolev’s 168 NBA minutes. It’s possible that I missed him without knowing it, I fully concede. But I sure can’t remember a lick of his NBA career. And it is a career, because even at age 21, he ain’t coming back. Mike Dunleavy clearly dropped the ball with this Russian athlete, who shot 28 percent from the field in 34 NBA games.

    6. Rafael Araujo(notes), Toronto Raptors, taken eighth overall in 2004
    Your humble narrator received all sorts of stick from Toronto backers for calling Hoffa a bust after his rookie year, as if he was ready for a bust-out season at age 25 after turning the ball over on nearly 21 percent of the possessions he used up in 2004-05. Raps fans, as they sometimes do, warmed to a dose of reality a year later when Araujo continued to stink, and Jazz fans got a taste in his third season before he was mercifully left to play overseas.

    5. Adam Morrison(notes), Charlotte Bobcats, taken third overall in 2006
    Morrison is ranked this low (high?) because he’s still in the league. He still has a chance, even at age 25, to improve upon his 37 percent lifetime mark from the field. He still has a chance to learn how to rebound, defend, get to the line or pass the ball properly. The unfortunate truth is, were I to compile this list in 2012,

    4. Nikoloz Tskitishvili, Denver Nuggets, taken fifth overall in 2002
    Dirk Nowitzki(notes) was a month away from shooting the Dallas Mavericks to their second consecutive postseason appearance, a fact (Dallas? In the playoffs?) that still tended to boggle the mind in 2002. Peja Stojakovic(notes) was a few weeks removed from, well, shooting his Sacramento Kings out of a Game 7 win over the Los Angeles Lakers. But the ideal remained. Big guy, big shooter, pretty young, gobble him up. The Nuggets got two of the three correct. Skita shot 30.4 percent in 172 career NBA games. Yikes.

    3. Kwame Brown(notes), Washington Wizards, taken first overall in 2001
    Kwame’s the first top pick on this list, which holds quite a bit of weight because a top selection’s success or failure will rightfully be measured alongside all that come after him. Every pick. Even the free agents. Luckily for Kwame, the 2001 draft wasn’t great shakes in terms of star power, though it was a deep and helpful prospect pool, so his middling NBA career can almost be left to its own merits. And his merits (seven points, 5.6 rebounds in 23 minutes a contest, career) are bloody awful.

    2. Entire 2000 NBA draft
    You can’t pick a single bust-worthy standout. Sure, Stromile Swift(notes) (taken second overall) has disappointed greatly, but what were the Grizzlies’ options? Darius Miles(notes)? Marcus Fizer? Chris Mihm(notes)? DerMarr Johnson(notes)? Do you want me to go on? Or do you want me to just mention Jerome Moiso’s name and move on with it?

    1. Darko Milicic(notes), Detroit Pistons, taken second overall in 2003
    He’s the total package. His name eases right into the lame jokes (“you could get yourself another Dar-ko Milicic; you know what I mean? This guy knows what I’m talking about!”), he’s been an underachieving flameout, he only rose to prominence by taking advantage of well-sourced but not entirely basketball-savvy (at least, then) hoops scribes who were smitten by his ability to spin and dunk in an empty gym, and he was taken ahead of franchise types like Dwyane Wade(notes), Carmelo Anthony(notes) and Chris Bosh(notes). Darko is, quite easily, the biggest lottery bust of the decade.

    A lot of international/Euros made this list.

    Peace & Blessings

    Comment by Statesman2 | August 25, 2009 | Reply

    • Peaceman

      Does that make Darko the number 1 Buster?

      Comment by orangeandblue1 | August 25, 2009 | Reply

      • Darko has a RING……
        can’t be a complete bust!

        Comment by Peaceman | August 27, 2009

      • Sure Darko has a ring

        But he was just along for the ride!

        Comment by orangeandblue1 | August 27, 2009

    • ROFLMAO. Too bad you’re not playing the “Babe Selection (BS)” game, you might of had a Championship team goin’ on.

      BTW, anyone here is absolutely free to change the programming and keep the troops entertained until the battle resumes. I admit my sense of humor is bizarre and you ain’t seen nothing yet. I shoudl be doin’ life the Cooley High way, anyway. Ha Ha Ha.

      Comment by livesinnewjersey | August 25, 2009 | Reply

  6. Nice theme Lives of bringing back the classics.

    But if Walsh ever checks in onto this blog you might hit him with some nostalgia and give his slow old turtle self a heart attack.

    You wouldn’t want to increase Walsh’s possible natural causes would you?

    Comment by orangeandblue1 | August 25, 2009 | Reply

  7. I know Hahn’s latest bit of “inside scoop” apologetics has most here on cruise control.

    But I’ll believe it when I see it when it comes to Sessions.

    Comment by orangeandblue1 | August 25, 2009 | Reply

  8. With No Offer From Knicks, Sessions To New York Looks Dead

    Aug 25, 2009 9:15 PM EST
    Alan Hahn writes that the Knicks do not have a standing offer to Ramon Sessions and that the team would only make a long-term commitment to the restricted free-agent if Donnie Walsh is able to move the contract of either Jared Jeffries or Eddy Curry.

    Hahn therefore concludes that the Knicks’ chances of landing Sessions this summer are remote

    Comment by D L T Knicks | August 25, 2009 | Reply

  9. Sorry Gents, I tried to tell you that sometimes Hahn doesn’t have a clue. He was overselling this patience angle like a big dog. He and others were also talking about how they had Sessions on the ropes and his options were limited.

    Now Hahn sorta kinda fesses up and tells us that Sessions is not even on the table right now. Sure the Knicks may be salivating over him from across the room, but they are definitely not at the same table and there is no standing offer on the table for Sessions to take.

    Why? Because as I said in Gullible and before, the numbers for 2010 don’t work. We don’t have the money if we’re building from FA’s.

    Now this is the worst part: we still have no clue what type of team we are building in 2010. None. Walsh made it clear that he is not concerned about who our acquisition is in 2010, His concern is to be prepared to buy something good. In order to do that, he can’t buy anything now without being certain he can sell Jeffries and Curry for expiring contracts. Therefore, he can’t make an acquisition that will breach that plan, although he was willing to do it in the case of getting Kidd’s reputation. So when we get our free agent, it will be done with about 6-8 players under contract. We’ll have very little money to put a team around the FA, which is why the Knicks put the onus on Gallinari and Chandler.

    Told ya. Hahn has finally admitted that Walsh being a turtle has nothing to do with patience. It has to do with being in a bad position. It’s his position that needs to change and he hasn’t been able to find someone willing to help him.

    So far that is a miscalculation — but as I said last year, that was pretty obvious. If does not take a math major to figure that one out.

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | August 25, 2009 | Reply

    • Lives

      It should have been apparent when in his koolaid article about Knicks still in the game for Sessions, he made use of the oft used qualifier “when and if” as in when and if the Knicks sign Sessions then [ ]’amphoni will say as in Jerry Mguire,… I’m free!

      Now he’ll be saying something akin to Jerry Lewis’ kids LOL!

      Don’t you just love it?

      Comment by orangeandblue1 | August 25, 2009 | Reply

    • Walsh’s Plan so heavily reliant on NBA economics staying prosperous took a heavy blow this summer with the shrinking of the cap.

      Now like a polar bear facing a drastically changed environment, for the Bear the melting of the polar ice cap and for walsh the fact that all the eggs he put in a one declared years spending spree objective now shattered, Walsh must hold on for dear life to the remaining remnants of cap space floating off to a perilous nowhere in the vast ocean of sinking Knicks Fans expectations.

      Could it have been avoided or mitigated to some extent is the question.

      I think this is where the MSM sell job on Walsh’s patience as merely virtue is suspect. Even ESPN’s Chad Ford in that latest article regarding the Knicks 2010 and beyond fate pointed to the Failure of Walsh to move J. Jefferies for a bag of chips as potentially lethal blow again to a coup de grace to any flexibility necessary this year to entice A or B list free agents to the Knicks.

      Think a little harder and consider that perhpas Lee, if not Nate might have been resigned prior to the hyping of his stats under the 7 secs or mess offense, and the Knicks might have secured the trade chip at a premium then to trade or help recruit them much sought after free agents?

      A virtue is both a blessing and curse,… one slipped move and the pendulum sways to the jugular of the throat like an angry guillotine to the neck!

      Comment by orangeandblue1 | August 25, 2009 | Reply

  10. Koolaid one second then reality juice the other.

    Talk about speaking with a forked tongue!

    But I can’t blame the dude,… he’s mearely feeding and providing for his family.

    As I said before this is “200 and Nein, not Neun, The Prekill, not prequil!”

    Comment by orangeandblue1 | August 25, 2009 | Reply

    • True. He’s just another nut trying to stay attractive for the next squirrel to come along.

      Comment by livesinnewjersey | August 25, 2009 | Reply

      • True

        One last expression before I’m off to meet up with Sand Man:


        Comment by orangeandblue1 | August 26, 2009

  11. RIP Sen. TK–a true Knicker-Backer and lovah! 44th and hOpe would not have been possible without him.

    Steady as the blood that flows through the Euphrates.


    Comment by Steady | August 26, 2009 | Reply

    • Seconded.

      Comment by livesinnewjersey | August 26, 2009 | Reply

  12. Tis Not the Season for Sessions:

    Alan Hahn, is either duped by inside sources within the Knick organization to plant stories or else has a need to make up stories so that his column and blog can generate readers and interest, regardless of accuracy, for starving Knick fans anxious to hear any bit of information that the team will actually upgrade talent and improve performance in the forthcoming season. Instead, we are told about interest and feelers, tryouts, interviews and offers or non-offers dangled in front of various players: Kidd, Hill, Stackhouse, Von Wafer, Sessions, psudo-news only to retracted one or two days later as incorrect or not possible given the limitations of “cap space” and the importance of keeping “eyes on the prize” — gift(s) to be purchased and opened only on July 1st 2010.

    Though Ramon Sessions is out there, available at a reasonable cost, and would upgrade the team’s scoring and assists at the point guard spot, he will not be pursued for the sake of preserving next season’s “Holy Cap Space”—best defined as some panacea-like hole in Walsh’s mind. Thus, this season is not the “season to be jolly”; that season must await a “time for all seasons,” the “Glory Days” of July 2010.

    Peaceman: I am truly sorry that you bought 09-10 season tickets. Perhaps you can offer to trade them in for the 10 – 11 season as a way to help the team conserve cap space. Other 09 – 10 season ticket holders should make the same offer. Maybe that message would reach MSG and Cablevision stockholders and compel Walsh to rethink his worldview of how to build team cohesion, chemistry, and competitiveness—not to mention fan enthusiasm.

    Lives: Check out some Hedy photos in “Samson and Delilah”:

    Comment by Post-up Prince | August 26, 2009 | Reply

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