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(Well, Brother Cooleyhigh is back at the ranch and in rare form.  For those just stepping into our environs, welcome.  Mr. Cooley is one of our distinguished old heads from back in the day when just bloggin’ was actually just bloggin’ and not yet a family affair.  Every once in a while, we must elevate a provocative comment up here to the penthouse for some R&R (review and rebuttal). This morning courtesy of one of our shareholders, Steady (who is still waiting for his 1/42d share of one acre and a mule offered to every Fanatic by President Bush), Comment #6  by Cooleyhigh (from the previous thread) gets the master suite and the efficiency kitchen.  Walsh should be glad to have someone so faithful in the room.)

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Lives with the Classic DW line; “This ain’t checkers, we’re playing chess; I’ve been setting this up all week…”

CLASSIC! LIVES, I agree with you! Kahn is in the Drivers seat and the play is Patience and Due Diligence, a Turtle Wax Walsh trait. There are a few exceptions on his resume at Indiana, but he built a powerhouse that just never got over the hump. Your comparisons are quite astute, although Pretty Ricky does not possess the talent nor the potential of Bird nor the Admiral. Pretty Ricky will never be a top 50 Player in this league or any other for that matter. Gotta win those chips or be like EWING, Barkley, did I hear someone say Stockton and Malone and come close a few times.

There are still a few moves to be made on the NBA front and they will happen. I do agree with my Brudder that juggles the Cash for others, when he states Darko may be the sleeper in all of this. It takes big men awhile to adjust to the Pro game, and since his game is quite European, this style of play suits him well and there is a very strong chance he hits his stride in the NYC. We’ve been so disgusted with ECURRY over the years that we forget he is a low post threat and if he is in the best shape of his og career, he can be a Big Horse in the Middle for 20 to 30 minutes a night. Our swings are athletic and Gallo if right is the Sharp Shooter we’ve been missing. Darko and Hill are plugs we’ve been missing in the hole to SWAT (And I’m not talking about Strengths, Weaknesses & Tactics)away the bulllshit.

Yes, we are a little thin at Point Guard, but I am a believer that TD will develop into a solid sub, and become Mr. Distributor and Mr. Disruptive… Scoring is not an issue for this TEAM as last year indicated. Defense is the KEY for these DUDES… This TEAM has speed, with the RIGHT DARKO, CURRY, and HILL they have size, and plenty of size on the swings with Chandler, Gallo, Jeffries, Harrington, and Hughes if he doesn’t break a nail.

With those Chips stacked up on the table, there is another move in the works and we just need to let it unfold…Surely, you didn’t want those Ole Retreads named Kidd, Hill, Stackhouse; nor do you want a point guard out of the SEC, who made a name for himself while his TEAM languished in Mediocrisy… In my mind, Sessions is not the Elixir at Point Guard. Like DLEE he played for a loser so STATS are very deceiving, and for the asking price, both are TREMENDOUS RISKS, and with CBA on the horizon, NBA MGMTS moved shrewdly and cost-effectively…

Gentlemen, sometimes A woman likes it slow, and others they just want you WUP that AZZ, but a SMOOTH BRUDDER never rushes the Stroke until he know his Woman has had Sensual Eruption… Always remember Young Bucks, a True Lover is never one that has Multiple women; If you got Mulla that’s pretty simple, but a True Lover is one that can take One Woman make her Happy for a lifetime. If you can’t decipher the analogy, My Book is in stands at your nearest Bookstore entitled, “It Ain’t What You Got, Its What You Know.” Tell em you know Cooleyhigh and you’ll get a free copy….LOL LOL LOL

Just Bloggin Fellas!@

One Love! One Heart! One God!

Keep it CRACKIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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September 8, 2009 - Posted by | Donnie Walsh, New York Knicks | , , ,


  1. John Stockton asks Isiah Thomas to present him at the Hall of Fame Ceremonies. Wow. I mean WOW.

    Comment by igmknicks | September 8, 2009 | Reply

  2. Marbury Done

    The time comes in every professional athlete’s life when the reality of age and physical ability force a career change, and that seems to be where Stephon Marbury finds himself now. Here are a couple of posts from Marbury’s Twitter page, posted Monday evening.

    Done……………………………………………………………………………………………… Forever… Blessings…

    Basketball is just a game. I will say it again. 14 years 250 million. Hold that. I’m good.. Thank you jesus for the blessing. Thanks NBA

    So what’s next for Marbury, now that the NBA seems to be officially a thing of the past? He’s starting a project called “starburytv.” While he admits in a further “tweet” that TV money isn’t NBA money, which it clearly isn’t, it will give Marbury a chance to continue to stay in touch with his loyal fan base and try to continue marketing his clothing line, including its new theme: “Bigger Than Basketball.”

    It remains to be seen, of course, whether or not Marbury is truly bigger than basketball, but NBA fans should recognize what his retirement represents. There was a time when Marbury was considered to be among the elite in the NBA, and while he never realized the championship dream, he played the game at a very high level for a number of years. For eight seasons he averaged more than 20 points and more than eight assists per game, an accomplishment that put him among the best point guards in the league from 1998-2004.

    His decline may have become somewhat of a public spectacle, especially since it took place in the media capital of the world, but Stephon Marbury shouldn’t be remembered for the drama that surrounded the Isiah Thomas era in New York. He should be remembered in the NBA world as a fierce competitor who worked as hard as anyone in the league to be the best and to be a winner.

    Comment by igmknicks | September 8, 2009 | Reply

  3. MYLES MILLS is a fuicking asshole.does anyone know about this dope?

    Comment by auggie | September 8, 2009 | Reply

    • I gather you are referring to one of the Tommy Dee’s guys at the Knicks Blog. I’ve had the pleasure of discussing the Knicks with him, but he doesn’t strike me as more than a very young basketball enthusiast who understands a lot less than he think he knows. I kinda like him.

      Comment by igmknicks | September 8, 2009 | Reply

  4. Fanatics,

    It’s Darko and maybe Wally for our “Big summer to improve the team for LBJ”.I’m sure LBJ is happy about these non-defensive players that excite him about coming to NY………..

    Sep 08, 2009 7:41 AM EST
    The Knicks have an open roster spot and Wally Szczerbiak is still unsigned.

    Szczerbiak has been linked to the Nuggets this offseason, but nothing appears imminent between the forward and Denver.

    Alan Hahn of Newsday believes that the Knicks could get Szczerbiak for the bi-annual exception ($1.9 million), which would be good value for a veteran of his caliber.

    Szczerbiak is a native of Long Island, which might make New York an enticing destination.

    ………………..thus Just D L T

    Somebody help me.

    Comment by Just D L T | September 8, 2009 | Reply

    • Wally world! Say what that might just give me Scruvy ack!

      Comment by orangeandblue1 | September 8, 2009 | Reply

      • Ditto,O&B,

        For some reason I was expecting the Turtle to surround his 2010 superstar with talent he could not resist this year.We got Darko and some rookies(good rookies).

        Just remember last year Philly cleared cap space for a max contract superstar named Elton Brand.How’s that working out?Half the season he was injured and now they want to trade him.Why? …..because the team plays better without him.And now no team will touch that contract.

        ……could we be waiting for nothing?????

        ……A Hurting D L T.

        Comment by Just D L T | September 8, 2009

      • DLT

        Being that Walsh is up in years he has a jones for guys in line for the muslix factory! LOL!

        He really sympathizes with them.

        Comment by O&B's Ghost | September 9, 2009

  5. today is my birthday and i really hoped the knicks would give me a point guard,not the hopes of signing an old ex-shooter with an un-pronouncable name.i am starting to hate DONNIE WALSH.IF I SEE HIM tonite im gonna beat the shit outta least with zeke,we always got some new guys to make fun of

    Comment by auggie | September 8, 2009 | Reply

    • Happy Birthday Auggie!!!

      Hope you like. . . cats. Couldn’t find a point guard.

      Comment by livesinnewjersey | September 8, 2009 | Reply

      • LOL! Ha! Cat in the cradle but he’s gotta earn his stripes to get into the crib!

        Comment by orangeandblue1 | September 8, 2009

    • Happy B-Day Fanantic!!!!

      Comment by Just D L T | September 8, 2009 | Reply

    • My Birthday too Auggie! We are brother Virgos!

      Comment by Peaceman | September 8, 2009 | Reply

      • Hey Happy B-day Peace, I hope you don’t mind sharing a little pussy cat and cake with Auggie. If so, I’ll find you a point guard. Happy B-day Bro

        Comment by livesinnewjersey | September 9, 2009

      • A belated feliz cumpeanhos!

        Comment by O&B's Ghost | September 9, 2009

  6. Congratulations Cooley-MD on your rise and for giving Turtle Don the same in the process.
    And the KUMBA stops right there because even Cooley-MD recognized that the NYK will not be playing with a full deck sans Lee and KryptoNate.

    Questions to the gentle bloggers:
    What did you do with those players and how do you roll them into the equation for the significant minutes they require?

    What is the ultimate goal of the 2009 season? Play to win? Play to just fill the seats? Play to just make it into 2010 and the FA (read OTP Sweepstakes)?

    Fanatics, 2010 will not be a Bonanza because the organization has been “WACKY” over the past few months. Those same voices praising the poise and due diligence expressed by Turtle Don should answer this question: Would it have been considered poise and extremely due diligence if Hill/Kidd/Nash had not pimped the Turtle to wax their former team? The veil of Hypocrates unfurls with every apologist who criticize efforts to field a winning competitive side (as IT unsuccessfully did) to what Turtle Walsh is doing now.

    Rooting for our side is easy–for passionate NYKFLers. All they ask for is a yeoman’s effort and real talk about competition with proven/known quantities at every position. Darko’s body of work does not send signals about a competitor in NY. The kid Gallinari was seen from a distance when the franchise made clear overtures about changing its “face”. And now it calls on its hacks to package Wallymania for public consumption. Blogga Puhleeeeeze.

    It would be helpful to know if these cats have been practicing TEAM defense this summer. How do they plan to cover the lanes when returning from the 7-seconds premature jack-off as was NOT done last year? Is there trust/chemistry being built among help defenders? Everyone wants to run the floor, but to what end? There’s no sign that anything is being built in NY–not by Walsh and not right now.
    There may be 4-5 new players that come in 2010. Steady will not be the one calling which one of them here–Steady does not covet thine baby momma or thine OTP

    Other than Peaceman conspiracies and connects to only Cooley-MD and the Admin…
    Steady Bloggin as IT introduces Stockton into the Hall.


    Comment by Steady | September 8, 2009 | Reply

    • Stockton “Knows what’s good” as Steady says.

      Thomas is on his slow march to redemption.

      Comment by orangeandblue1 | September 8, 2009 | Reply

  7. Fanatics,

    There has to be water in the glass to see the glass as being half-full. It amazes me how Fanatics believe that D’Antoni’s system will make everyone a better player. The system may enhance your stats, but it does not make you a better player,(see Duhon). Believing that Darko will somehow become a better player in this system is similar to thinking following players would rise in D’Antoni’s system.

    I cannot remember any of these “Face-Up Bigs” thriving in “The System”

    2004-05—-Jake Voskuhl, Steven Hunter, Walter McCarty
    2005-06—-Macieji Lampe, Jackson Vroman
    2006-07—-Sean Marks, Pat Burke

    The theory that it takes BIG Men longer to develop, does not mean that it takes 6-years. Name a player that after 3-4 years in the league made a big improvement in his game. Are there those still waiting for Kwame Brown? Does anyone believe that Eddy will grab 10-boards, play defense and rebound? Anyone other than Auggie?

    It is cool to be positive, but it is better to be realistic. In the immortal words of Devon Jefferson, “We Suck”

    Peace & Blessings

    Comment by Statesman2 | September 8, 2009 | Reply

    • Good Point about the “face-up bigs” S2 and agreed on the “we suck” theory too.

      Comment by Just D L T | September 8, 2009 | Reply

    • other than AUGGIE? i hate eddy curry’s guts.when the hell did you ever hear me say that curry is even a little bit good?you are doing mushrooms arent you? we suck and i believe that donnie walsh is ruining our team.he shoulda signed sessions and instead of going after lebron next year he should go after 3 very good players cuz with gallo,sessions and 3 very good players (JOE JOHNSON)etc we would be able to build a solid team,with no point guard 3 schlubs and lebron thats a shitty team

      Comment by auggie | September 9, 2009 | Reply

    • just cuz i caught you having sex with yer dog dont lie about me

      Comment by auggie | September 9, 2009 | Reply

      • Auggie,

        No need to lie on you. Your responses reveal more about you than any lie. BTW–In today’s NBA, a team with LeBron may not win a championship, but it is not a shitty team.

        Peace & Blessings

        Comment by Statesman2 | September 9, 2009

    • just because i caught you havin sex wth your dog is no reason to tell lies about me

      Comment by auggie | September 9, 2009 | Reply

  8. Sophisicated Gents…“we suck” is not a theory.
    Is is a fact. Fact. Fact. Fact.

    Lives:) ” His(Marbury’s) decline may have become somewhat of a public spectacle, especially since it took place in the media capital of the world, but Stephon Marbury shouldn’t be remembered for the drama that surrounded the Isiah Thomas era in New York.” …… True ..Marbury was a Superstar.However, his drama was self-imposed and reference to it being Zeke’s fault, is inretrospect, Bullshit!
    He was Zeke’s downfall more than the other way around!

    Comment by Peaceman | September 8, 2009 | Reply

    • Agreed Peace. You know I love my boy Modi, but I’m pretty sure the author of that last paragraph was being coached by our Journalist-in-Residence.

      Comment by livesinnewjersey | September 9, 2009 | Reply

  9. By the way, when are Paul and Tman coming back from their summer vacations?

    Comment by livesinnewjersey | September 9, 2009 | Reply

    • When Donnie Walsh comes back from his summer vacation.

      Peace & Blessings

      Comment by Statesman2 | September 9, 2009 | Reply


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        Comment by Peaceman | September 9, 2009

    • My summer vacation will end when Fanatics demanding DEFENSE stop calling for piss-poor defenders like Stephon Curry & Ramon Sessions to be our saviours. So we have no bigs who play defense….i know, let’s put a bunch of turnstyles on the perimeter to highlight their deficiencies!

      We don’t just suck now, we have sucked consistently for eight long years, and this year ain’t gonna be any different.

      We all want it to be one way, but it’s the other way.

      Walsh & D’Antoni were just here to clean the books over a transition period and distract us with run & gun, they’ll both be gone after next season to allow a real coach & GM team the opportunity to come in with a clean slate and a clean salary cap in 2011.

      This season will be like the early 80’s, when it wasn’t about wins & losses but more about player development, figuring out who will have a home here in the future and who won’t.

      2008-09 32 50 .380
      2007-08 23 59 .280
      2006-07 33 49 .402
      2005-06 23 59 .280
      2004-05 33 49 .402
      2003-04 39 43 .476
      2002-03 37 45 .451
      2001-02 30 52 .366

      Comment by Paul | September 9, 2009 | Reply

      • I hope your right Paul.

        I don’t want to see Donnie Walsh or [ ]’ontoni in NY ever again associated with the Knicks!

        Comment by O&B's Ghost | September 9, 2009

  10. I’ll be DAMN! I made it to the Deluxe Suite and one of my posts is the Lead Story. I don’t know that I am deserving, but I feel like Jed Clampett, and the next thing I know I’m on the Front Page, the Premier Stage… I’m humbled! But what the F**K happen to Oil, Black Gold, Texas Tea…

    After playing catch up on the Thread in August, and bearing witness to the Fanatic’s version of Town Hall Meetings on the disposition on of our beloved Knicks. REFORM seems to be the MANTRA of the day by most Fanatics, and most just sick and tire of the Special Interest in the NBA (Lil General, Ole Retreds leveraging the Franchise, Fixed Draft Balls,Self-Righteous GM’S that won’t deal with the TEAM without some of compromise that destroys our team) but especially the Corrupt Onwership that consistently cuts the real benefits of the Leagues Best Fans that have seen our Knick franchise make substanial profits over the last few years, but not provide the type of Fan Coverage or Product on the court we deserve based on the price of a Knick Ticket or a a cup of beer or a decent bag of Popcorn.

    It is apparant we have some Knickithers, I’ve read about Scrub Panels, some have even called Turtle Wax Walsh an Ole Fartzi, and labled our distinguish Coach Weak, Indecisive, and a Europeanist in explaining his style of coaching in this diverse age of BBALL. And, for all of the Fanatics that disagree with my Positive Proposition, I have one question for all of you. DO YOU HAVE A BETTER PLAN?

    Well, I like good scrum like any other Playa Playa, and it is clear many Fanatics have come to the THREAD with Guns blazing rhetorically. But I’m going to be the grown up in the room, and work and prepare my State of Knicks Speech, and spell out succinctly what I believe this Franchise must do to return to a dynamic period of STABILITY,EFECTIVE CAP STRATEGY, SUCCESS, and ULTIMATE GLORY, which is simply lifting that NBA Championship Trophy high in the Greatest Arena in the World. WE MUST PROTECT THIS HOUSE!

    Let me retire to my Lab, grab my Pen and my Pad, and get back ATCHA at the appropriate time. I just want to leave you with this thought, YES WE CAN! YES WE WILL!
    YES WE MUST! God Bless KnickAmerica and every FANATIC!

    Comment by Cooleyhigh | September 9, 2009 | Reply

    • As Cooley-MD, we figured that you were hung with big ones and could handle the deconstruction by the Fanatic scalpels. You know how this place scrolls. So go on back to your Bat cave and come back with some good $#!+. In the meantime, enjoy your view from the Penthouse.

      Steady as IT scrolls.


      Comment by Steady | September 9, 2009 | Reply

  11. NY Times-
    “The previous five-year deal between the N.B.A. and the referees expired after last season. The breakdown in contract talks was first reported by

    League officials, responding to the global recession, want to reduce the referee budget by 10 percent, or $3.2 million, according to the ESPN report. The union has offered to accept a reduction of $2.5 million, leaving a gap of $700,000. A person involved in the talks also cited those figures, although league officials called them inaccurate.

    Stern confirmed that the N.B.A. wants to reduce the referee budget but said he was not asking the referees to take any reduction in salary. He declined to get into specific provisions, or address the figures that have been reported.

    “I think it is fair to say they have moved off their request for a 12 percent increase,” Stern said, with a hint of sarcasm. “They’ve moved off of that and we thought they were making progress.”

    The parties have apparently agreed on the length of a new deal. At the union’s request, it will span two years, in the hope that the economy rebounds by 2011.

    McMorris (Referee’s Union Negotiator) said the gap between the union’s proposal and the N.B.A.’s “is not big enough, in terms of how far we are apart, to justify a lockout.” But the tenor of his remarks, and Stern’s, suggest that it might be difficult to find common ground.

    McMorris said he was “frustrated and disappointed at the unprofessional and disrespectful manner in which Mr. Stern ended what was a productive negotiating session” on Tuesday. He theorized that Stern was taking a hard line with the referees “to send a message to the players,” whose labor deal expires in 2011.

    Stern pointedly rebutted the suggestion, saying, “This has nothing to do with the player negotiations.”

    Yeah right,David, $700,000 divided by the number of NBA teams ain’t even your lunch money for the season!So what is the real deal?Keepin’ the brothers in check most probably.The refs will eventually cave, in this economy they can’t afford to lose a season, could you?This is just shaking a stick and whippin’ a little kid’s azz so his big bro will get the point.Shame on you Dave.Why don’t you pick on someone your own size, like Disney, or the Chinese who are probably pickin’ your pocket while you pretend it’s all good.By the way your piece in the barbershop with the Times reporter was bullshyte.I know a few guys who would not let you slide on those bullshyte answers you gave.Greed is the name of the game and you sold out a long time ago, Mr. civil rights attorney.Ask your wife?Have you asked any of your Chinese partners about the state of civil rights in Beijing?
    How about those Dolans breaking off the Garden into a separate holding company.Could Comcast be angling to buy a piece of Cablevision?Buying the Knicks would be a conflict of interests since Comcast owns the Sixers, but now, who knows?Poor us, we sad, sad Knicksters are we.Can you believe we’re actually rooting for Darko(the Dildo Darkstar?)to be our savior.Good luck to us.Maybe D’opey has figure out how to play some D, fat (Eddie) chance.Hey Dan, maybe you coach them for 28 minutes a game?But I doubt it.If Mad Mike has learned anything from last year he might win a few more games by paying attention and doing a better job on the bench.He blew about ten games he should have won.He wins those he might hold the dogs off and stick around to coach LeBenedict Arnold.Yeah, he’s still probably coming along with LeWading in his own bullshyte.How do I know this, Wall Street tells me so!By the way, Donny is still all old school NYC.Don’t sell his long game short.He’s holding his cards close.Remember, he hasn’t made any moves, but he hasn’t made any mistakes either.If you want to play in the big game you’re gonna need deep pockets.The jury is still out and will be for the next season.Donny is fighting for his coaching legacy amongst his brethren.Don’t count him out just yet.This year is a throwaway for everyone knicks, but the fans.Stern knows it,the refs know it and the players without clout are going to find out what Lee and Nate learned.You’re just a pawn in a bigger long term game.When you swim with the Lesharks your butt can be bit.Sit back, pop that top and root for your team baby.It’s all still good!It’s like Jeopardy in sneaks and shorts. It’s up, it’s goood!Just like Nedicks used to be!lgk,baby,lgk

    Comment by Tman | September 10, 2009 | Reply

    • Steady reads it about the same way with the same tea leaves, Coach. The book is called “Blueprint to a Billion”–a MUST read.
      1. It starts out with owning a media outlet–say Cablevision, Comcast, Verizon, etc…
      2. Then you go out and buy a product that will constantly provide programming to include ACTION, SEX, THRILLS, DRAMA, angst, anxiety–Is this beginning to sound like our favorite side? It should….
      3. Next, to really control the hearts AND minds, you buy an ink swill (newspaper company) and complimentary hacks to tweak, spin and fix any instances where the first two products may falter or if its market share is fenna drop. 3.a. Because you get the complimentary online portal, the domination is nearly complete because you can control the land (corner vending machines and street hawkers), see (billboards with photos of Lee, Darko and Gallo) and air (as in the hot variety coming from Turtle Don and []’Anfoni).
      4. Finally, you’ve got to own the venue–Mecca, Forum, TD Center, etc. The value gets lumped in and you can take that to the bank for leverage, cash-in or -out and buy trophy replicas the size of cuff links.
      Had a conversation with Cris Carter and Ricky Jackson once about why a Coach (say Doc in Boston or Mike in NY) would be willing to bludgeon his name and record knowing that he’s working in a losing “no-win” environment. To a person, it seems non-sensical or even foolhearty. And they responded in stereo–“Its the money”. The take away was somehting like this–Them guys (read coaches) aren’t lacing up anything and their joints don’t ache at 3:00 AM.
      This year will be one for the ages Fanatics. Enjoy the game and the plays/move because it will not be about the wins. This year will be about skins. Ya’ll know what’s good.

      Steady as the scrIpT unfolds.


      Comment by Steady | September 10, 2009 | Reply

      • It’s about a $,no doubt.But the reason we’re on this site, the reason we’re ballers, and lifers is the love of the game.You want to know what Doc Rivers is really all about, aside from the money, check out his book, “Those Who Love the Game”, 1993.It’s all there, and its the same thing that’s buried deep in your chest.No matter how much some MSG azzholes pisses on it.It’s still our game, not theirs.It belongs to all of us.The Pricks rent, we own.Just Keepin’ it Steady.LGK

        Comment by Tman | September 10, 2009

      • That one was well said T’man,… very well said!

        Comment by orangeandblue1 | September 10, 2009

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